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Chocolate covered marshmallows, Coca-Cola, Jack's chicken sandwich--nothin' on it--Sour Straws, Doritos...the list goes on and on. This is what fuels the Tiltmode Army's big gunnery lieutenant; 18-years-old and training to be Mikey in the new Life cereal commercial. "Let's get Caswell. He'll try anything." The little bastard is better than you.

What have you ever done in your life to deserve an interview in the world-renowned skateboarding mag, Thrasher?

Geez, man. Well, lets see here, I skateboarded.

Could I say I skateboarded and people thought it was good enough and they put it in the magazine? Does that work? Oh, wait, I'm suppose to answer what I think I did, geez. I thought skateboarding was good. So much pressure, man, so much pressure. What else would I do to get in Thrasher? Shit man, I skated; I don't know.

I don't think that cuts it.

But every other kid in America skates and they're not in Thrasher. What have you done different than those kids? What did Thrasher see in you that they wanted to publish?

OK, well I'm going to lay it down proper here and I'm going to say that I fuckin' rip, man, and I just took care of shit. I could lie and say all this stuff about how great I am and that's why I got in there, but I don't want that. I can't answer that one.

Alright, we'll move on to the next question. Caswell, how do you feel about photographers in mags only wanting to run photos of you doing the 40-stair man rail or the leap of the faithful gap, or whatever?

I personally think it's kinda lame in a sense because it's not too hard to do, you just have to be dumb like I am. You just jump on it--it takes some skill, but not necessarily as much as it takes to do a 360 flip nose-slide nollie heelflip out or something. I'm just not into it sometimes because all this pressure builds up and I have to do all these tricks that people want me to do. It's not very cool, but it's kinda cool at the same time, whatever. I'm bullshitting now. I suck at answering interview questions. But, basically it's lame.

Well Caswell, you know if you don't like it you could always go get a job at Starbucks. I've got an application in my car.

Ah, sweet. Rad, I'm gonna get on that right now. Working? What's working? I already worked at a coffee shop once. It was great. That's why I quit after a month.

Is that why you choose to jump down the gaps now?

I'm forced in answering yes. Damn it. My whole second question is shit now.

Tell me a little bit about your family background. I kinda remember you being the little kid that hung out with Red and everybody thought he was your dad. He was a little weird, everybody called him "Side Show Bob."

Basically, he's the one that got me into skating. His name's Mark Sherlock. They called him "Little Red" 'cause he was a little guy with big red hair. He gave me my first real skateboard and he gave me videos. My mom fell in love with him, or something like that; I don't know how adult shit works like that, but yeah, they got married and I guess the first thing people thought was that he was my dad. He wasn't my real dad, he was a step-dad. For the most part he did a pretty good job at it and then things started falling apart a little bit.

He got into some bad stuff?

Oh yeah, bad stuff.

You lived by yourself for a little bit, too. What's up with that?

Oh, man, Basically, my mom, she was in jail and Red was in jail so I was just kinda kickin' it, cold kickin' it by myself. It was a little tough 'cause I was living trife and I had to get a job. I was forced to be an adult which kinda sucked but in a way it gave me a lot of responsibility--oh, by the way, my mom's doing good and she has 210 days sober. Back to the question: Nothing's up with that. I just dealt with it and everything's good now.

This is all before you were flossin' like you are now?

Damn, G's rollin' in. G's up, hoes down, If that bitch can't swim, she's bound to driz-own.

I remember seeing you in an old Volcom video. You were skatin' a mini-ramp and you were wearing diapers and had a pacifier in your mouth. What led you to be where you are now in the skateboard world?

A lot of friends helped me out growing up. It got to the point where the shit talking got too much so I took it upon myself to get a haircut and drop the 'hanna. I owe a lot to my friends, like you.

Is dropping the 'hanna like dropping the hammer?

I don't know. You'll have to ask Aaron Vandenbulke about that one.

I heard you stole a BMW to go pick up chicks before. Is that true?

No, I wish. That'd be rad 'cause then I'd get chicks for sure. No, it's not true. Unfortunately, no.

I just think you never want people to know about it because you never got caught.

True, true.

Underage girl?

No. Goddamn it, no. No underage girls. And she wasn't 15.

What prerequisites would you require for your dream girl? Would she have to love sour straws?

Damn straight. She better bring me back some candy when she comes home from work, and she better drive me around and give me some sweet lovin'. That's all the prerequisites she'd have to fill the needs of the dingle.

Tell me a little something about your tattoo.

That wasn't supposed to--OK, what do you want to hear?

What made you get it and what is it?

I got a tattoo recently while I was in Denver, Colorado. It's a Tiltmode Army tattoo. I thought it would be something I would never, ever really regret getting, unlike a girl's name or something. I'm really proud of the Tiltmode Army. I'm really proud to be a part of it. It's a part of my life right now that I feel is the best thing that's gone on in a long time. So, I'm definitely proud to sport that on my arm with no hesitation.

But all these companies that are paying you G's every month, why don't you have their names on your arm?

I'm not saying I'm not proud to ride for the companies--because I am--but that's just like putting a girls name on your arm. This is just a thing that a lot of friends came to me through. I just think it's a really good thing in my life right now and it makes me feel good every time I look at it. What happens if I got a tattoo of say, I won't say any names, but a company's logo on my arm and I ended up quitting or getting kicked off? Then I'd be kinda bummed. It'd be bad, but Tiltmode I'm really psyched on. So, off, I can't remember.

So what you're saying is that you're quitting Powell, Volcom, Venture...

No, not Venture, Krux.

Oh yeah, you already quit Venture. Good thing you didn't get a tattoo. And you ride for those Dragon goggles. Who else? Anybody else?

Bones bearings.

You're going to quit Bones bearings too?

No, I'm not going to quit, but--wait, what was the point of that whole thing?

The tattoo.

I'm not going to jump off a team and on to another one really quickly or anything like that. I'm happy where I'm at and everybody's taking care of me fine. So as long as that's taken care of then I don't think I'm quitting. And I don't think I'll get a tattoo anyway just for the sake of it. I don't know, I can't think.

I notice you have a really strong rivalry with someone else in the Army. I'm not going to say any names, but he just turned pro for Element. I heard he wanted to go to this rail and back Smith it, and before he did it you happened to go there and do it. What's goin' on with that?

Wait, is this the part where I was suppose to pretend that I hate Colt? Or, do I have to...

Yeah, just say you're better than him.

Oh, OK. Yeah. Should I mention the name?

No, just say, "I'm better than him."

Yeah, you know, I'm better than him so I had to show him what's up. Bitch is goin' down.

If there was a biography about you made into a movie, who would you want to play you?

Webster. Or wait, was that Gary Coleman? Gary Coleman, yeah. Is that who it is?

I don't know.

Gary Coleman, I think.

From Different Strokes?

Oh, that too. Yeah, Webster or uh--oh, Screech from Saved By The Bell. That'd be tight.

You said you cut your hair off because of the shit talking and I think it's helped you, but I think the chicks used to dig it more when you had long hair.

OK, I kinda cut my hair for that reason too, but I also cut it because it was time for a change. I had it for so long that I was over it. Yeah, girls were psyched on the hair. They always wanted to play with it and braid it and shit. That's OK, at least I don't have criddlers touching me anymore. It always seemed the fat chicks in class to be the ones that wanted to play with my hair, so that kinda sucked too. Every once in awhile I'd get lucky and there'd be a hot girl that wanted to play with it.

Who in skateboarding do you look up to in terms of their professionalism and everything that comes along with being a skater: style, tricks they do, how they let people perceive them...

Are you asking me to name my favorite skaters?

Pretty much.

I don't really know Kenny Reed, but I think he's really good. He has good style. Louie Barletta, 'cause he's Lou, sweet Lou. Matt Evs 'cause he's a dickhead and he's on my ass all the time and he's fun. Marc Johnson, Jayme Fortune and Brian Anderson. The list could go on forever. I'm just going to keep it at that.

(Caswell's 18. He wanted me to tell you that.) I know you have a lot of friends. A lot of them are very good at skateboarding, but for one reason or another they don't put it together to be where they should be or where they want to be. Give me three of your friends that are like that and why they aren't at the same stature you're at.

I'd have to say for one, one of my best friends Chris Smith. He was always around when I was younger. He was an older one out of the group of skaters we skated with and he was always rippin'. We'd always look up to him but I guess he had to grow up and get a job, which is not necessarily bad; he's just looking out for himself, but he still skates. He definitely could have been up there with us-- with us...that's lame. Yeah dude, I'm fuckin' so up there. And Ryan Chadwick. He started to get it, he was just there. He started to get a taste of it, and I don't know how but for some reason he started getting into other stuff. I don't want to say anything. Substances; that could be it. I've helped him out in a couple ways and hopefully when he reads this he can try to do me a favor and put the shit away and actually start acting like a real person--get on the shit, Doggy. Aaron Vandenbulke 'cause that guy sleeps like there's no tomorrow. You call him up at 1:00pm and he'll sound like you woke him up at 6:00 in the morning. Then you won't catch up with him until like 6:00 at night and he'll finally skate Vans or something. No hard feelings, Aaron.

Thank some people that get your wheels turning.

I would have to say Matt Eversole and Chris Avery--Tiltmode Army founder dudes; all my sponsors; Rob Washburn; Remy Stratton; Matt Sharkey; Eric Olson and Michael Furukawa; Luke Ogden and Jake for being on my ass; my mom, she's always been there--well not always, but she's tried and she's doing well now. I can't think of anybody else to thank but I'm going to kick myself in the ass later for not thanking somebody. So, if I get another interview sometime I'll get you back. Well, since you can do more than three tricks down big rails, I'm sure you'll get another interview someday.
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