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View skew: Jordan Levin developed the WB network's successful shows. His new company is positioning content for emerging mediums.


JORDAN Levin had a keen eye for the kinds of shows that would get teens and twenty-somethings to tune in when he was entertainment president and later co-chief executive of the upstart WB broadcast network. Levin, who spent 10 years at the network before leaving in a 2004 management shakeup shake·up  
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A thorough, often drastic reorganization, as of the personnel in a business or government.

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, had a hand in the network's signature hit shows, including "Dawson's Creek Dawson's Creek is an American primetime television drama which aired from January 20, 1998, to May 14, 2003, on The WB Television Network. The lead production company was Sony Pictures Television. ," "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "7th Heaven," and "Gilmore Girls Gilmore Girls is an American television drama/comedy created by Amy Sherman-Palladino and starring Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel. The series premiered on The WB on October 5, 2000 and ended on May 15, 2007, with its seventh season, which aired on The CW Television Network. ." While at WB, also Levin oversaw Kids' WB Kids' WB is the Saturday morning cartoon block of The CW Television Network's weekend programming. The CW is the result of The WB merge with UPN in 2006. History
Early years
 and helped to launch the American Girl American Girl, may refer to:
  • American Girl (comics), a fictional superheroine in the Amalgam Comics universe
  • American Girl (company), a subsidiary of the American toy company Mattel known for its eponymous collection of dolls and related accessories
 film franchise under WB's original movie division. Levin earlier was a Walt Disney Noun 1. Walt Disney - United States film maker who pioneered animated cartoons and created such characters as Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck; founded Disneyland (1901-1966)
Disney, Walter Elias Disney
 Co. executive, where as a development director at Walt Disney/Touchstone Television he helped develop family hits such as "Home Improvement" and "Boy Meets World." After a year spent consulting, Levin joined four colleagues--producers Peter Aronson and Mike Karz, and talent managers Kara Kara (kär`ə), river, c.140 mi (230 km) long, NE European and NW Siberian Russia. It flows N from the N Urals into the Kara Sea, forming part of the traditional border between European and Asian Russia. It is navigable in its lower course.  Welker and Dave Rath--to launch a specialty content development and talent management company called Generate. In February, the firm signed its first deal with MTV Networks MTV Networks is a division of media conglomerate Viacom that oversees the operation of many TV network and Internet brands, including the first MTV channel.

The company was established in 1984 after Warner Communications and American Express decided to divest the basic cable
 to create youth-oriented programming for multiple media platforms.

Question: You've spent most of your career working in ventures geared toward teen-agers and young adults. What's the appeal?

Answer: Young people really set the consumption habits and trends for society, whether it's music, fashion, television, film, and now broadband and mobile. They have this ability to connect with each other; there's this instantaneous adoption of new trends and new styles. Older people look at the thing on their hip and say, "It may do all these other things but it's still just a phone." For younger people, it's a communications center An agency charged with the responsibility for handling and controlling communications traffic. The center normally includes message center, transmitting, and receiving facilities. Also called COMCEN. See also telecommunications center. ; it's their conduit to all forms of communication, information and entertainment.

Q: What have you been doing since leaving the WB?

A: After I left the network in the summer of 2004, I directed an episode of "Everwood" over the fall and really started thinking about Generate last year. In the meantime Adv. 1. in the meantime - during the intervening time; "meanwhile I will not think about the problem"; "meantime he was attentive to his other interests"; "in the meantime the police were notified"
meantime, meanwhile
 I was doing consulting. My partners and I really started to come together to launch Generate during summer of 2005.

Q: What's the goal of your new company?

A: It is a production and talent management company that is going to target younger consumers wherever they are accessing and experiencing their entertainment. We're media neutral in our approach. Consumers are becoming more empowered because of technology and the customization of media experiences.

Q: So it's a content bet, not a technology bet?

A: Right. The chokehold for the last two decades and more has been on distribution. There was a large pool of talent seeking access to limited distribution. We believe the chokehold is shifting to talent, so that there is a limited pool of talent that a now-larger pool of distribution has to seek in order to make their pipelines sing.

Q: Would you have expected this change when you were helping launch the WB back in the mid-'90s?

A: My choice to go to the WB was predicated on the belief that television was following other media in moving from broader-based to more targeted media. Technology is always what facilitates these changes. Cable television enabled the proliferation of more channels. FM radio not only enabled better quality sound, it enabled the creation of more niche-oriented formats. Now satellite radio and pod-casting continue that trend. We're big believers in embracing technology to generate new business models, blat 1. blat - blast.
2. blat - See thud.
 we're not making a bet on a specific piece of technology.

Q: Your partners are longtime colleagues and friends. How did you all come together for this new venture?

A: It came together very naturally. We all happened to be in the position to work together at the same time. Peter Aronson and myself have always discussed it since were junior executives in the television business 17 years ago, and Mike Karz and I have talked about doing something like this for years as well. Pete was finishing up his stint as executive producer of "The Bernie Mac <noinclude> Bernard Jeffrey McCullough (born October 5, 1957[1]), better known as Bernie Mac, is a two time Emmy Award-nominated American actor and comedian.  Show," Mike was coming out of a New Line deal. At the same time we all knew Dave Rath rath (rä, räth), circular hill fort protected by earthworks, used by the ancient Irish in the pre-Christian era as a retreat in time of danger.  since the early '90s, during the early stages of the alternative comedy scene here in Los Angeles Los Angeles (lôs ăn`jələs, lŏs, ăn`jəlēz'), city (1990 pop. 3,485,398), seat of Los Angeles co., S Calif.; inc. 1850. .

Q: Why does Generate have a talent management division in addition to production?

A: We realized our approach to content development also extended itself very well to talent management. Kara and Dave specialize in representing talent who have multiple skill sets--they're often both writers and performers. They've had a history as an agency of specializing in comedy, which is especially ripe for both broadband and mobile offerings. They represent talent who embrace new technology and in many cases are using it to communicate directly with their audience, such a blogs and user-generated content The production of content by the general public rather than by paid professionals and experts in the field. Mostly available on the Web via blogs and wikis, user-generated content refers to material such as the daily news, encyclopedias and other references, movie and product reviews as .

Q: Who would be a good example of this?

A: One of their clients who has been getting a lot of attention is Andy Milonakis Andrew Michael Milonakis (born January 30, 1976, in Katonah, New York) is a Greek American comedian who plays the role of a pre-pubescent boy on his television show, The Andy Milonakis Show, which is now mostly played on MTV2. , who has a show on MTV MTV
 in full Music Television

U.S. cable television network, established in 1980 to present videos of musicians and singers performing new rock music. MTV won a wide following among rock-music fans worldwide and greatly affected the popular-music business.
2. Andy was discovered by Kara and Dave on the Internet from the content he was supplying on his own. They were producing the Jimmy Kimmel James Christian "Jimmy" Kimmel (born November 13, 1967) is an American comedian, writer, talk show host, game show host, and producer. Biography
Kimmel was born in the New York City borough of Brooklyn, to a German father and Italian mother.
 show and introduced him to Jimmy, who took a shining to him, put him on the show and that led to the MTV deal. Now he's in his second season and they're expecting more from him. Not only does Andy have the show, he also has a ring-tone deal, a healthy Web presence, and there's movie ideas in the works.

Q: How has focusing on programming for young people created a competitive advantage in the companies you've worked for?

A: Our new company, Generate is founded on a principle that was one of the core principles of the WB, that both audiences and advertisers will seek efficiency over reaching a wide variety of people. Efficiency means attracting the highest concentration of viewers within a specific demographic. Advertisers will pay a premium for efficiency. And they will pay an even higher premium for efficient delivery of a hard-to-reach audience. Younger consumers are the most difficult to reach because they are in so many places, media-wise.

Q: You were on the ground flour of building the WB. How did that experience inform how you've helped set up Generate?

A: I joined the WB when we were about the same size at Generate is now. We had decided the WB was only going to be successful if it approached business in a slightly subversive fashion. When we were forming the company, we felt there was opportunity in being small and agile and able to move quickly, unlike the larger networks. From a management standpoint, we had passionate young people as well as seasoned executives with experience reaching our target audience. That's the same approach we're taking at Generate.

Q: What kind of rules did you have success in breaking at the WB?

A: There used to be a rule that people in film never work in TV and visa-versa. But we were giving opportunities to young film talent who had never done TV shows in their lives, like Kevin Williamson
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 at "Dawsons Creek" and Joss Whedan with "Burry burry

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." We also sought out half-hour writers to create hour shows. Brenda Hampton, who created "7th Heaven," came out of half-hour. Amy Sherman-Paladino created "Gilmore Girls" and came from a "Roseanne" background.

Q: What was the result of that cross-pollination at the WB?

A: It gave our shows very cinematic sensibility, which appealed to young people who happen to be heavy moviegoers. In the mid-'90s, TV dramas at that time were generally very dark in tone and procedural in execution, like cop shows. There were not lighter hour shows on the air. We felt this was one area in which we could set ourselves apart.

Q: How does that experience translate into how you hope to utilize talent for productions at Generate?

A: It's what we hope to be doing here, like taking game creators and talent who have been creating on the Web, and moving them over to more traditional media, like television and film. At the same time, we're taking talent from more traditional media and giving them the opportunity to create in new media, such as gaming, broadband and mobile.

Q: What was going on that led to the need for WB and UPN UPN User Principal Name (Microsoft Windows 2000)
UPN United Paramount Network
UPN Unión del Pueblo Navarro (Navarrese People Union)
UPN Umgekehrte Polnische Notation
 to merge and become the CW network this fall?

A: As it loses share to new media, especially younger viewers who are the core for both UPN and the WB, traditional media has to consolidate. Even at their height, there was an inevitability that both networks would be challenged financially to survive as long as the revenue was derived from a broadcast model with the current state of available affiliates. The pressure increased as broadcast became less attractive for delivering younger audiences, since TV now competes with games and online usage for their attention.

Q: Was it that debate over whether the network should broaden its audience that lead to the circumstance prompting you to leave the company?

A: There was always discussion about who our audience should be the entire time I was there. Let's just say, I was a true believer true believer
n.
One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person: "a band of true believers bonded together against all those who did not agree with them" 
 in the value of more targeted media and micromarketing.

Q: What to you find interesting in the approach that it appears the CW will take in targeting its audience?

A: Both the WB and UPN have had problems whenever they tried to broaden their audience instead of staying tightly focused. It looks like they're coming together to replicate the target demographic that was most successful for the WB throughout the first 10 years of its existence, as well as the audience that led UPN to its greatest success in recent years. I think that validates the original strategy that (founding WB Chairman) Jamie Kellner Jamie Kellner is an American television executive. He was chairman and chief executive officer of Turner Broadcasting System, Inc., a division of Time Warner which includes TBS, TNT, and Cartoon Network.  created, which was a further evolution of the Fox strategy, which itself was an evolution of ABC's strategy. A new network has to attract disenfranchised audiences and offer something different. And going young was the way in for us.

Q: Does a network hit an awkward age at the 10-year point?

A: You essentially have to make a couple of decisions. A: decide who are you and whether you are going to stick to that; and B: if we are going to be more targeted, just like a radio station--what kind do we want to be? Jamie would use the radio station analogy all the time. You can either age up with your audience, such as a rock station like KLOS KLOS Kill and Loot on Sight (gaming guild) , or you can flow your audience though, like a KROQ. What MTV Networks does is flow through the audience on many of its networks in an effort to keep the median age stable. Each is designed to serve a consistent audience profile. And that is very attractive to me, because that means they're not moving targets for our content.

Q: Is your inaugural deal with MTV Networks a good example of the kind of work Generate wants to do?

A: This is an ideal first deal for us, The focus of our company is reaching younger consumers. The sweep of MTV Networks, from MTV to VH1 and from Nickelodeon to Comedy Central and Spike, collectively reach that audience in an incredibly powerful way.

Q: How does Generate's partnership with MTV Networks work?

A: The production side of our company is exclusive to MTV in the broadband and mobile space--to provide content to their own broadband or mobile networks or their other partners. It's also exclusive in basic cable, but first-look in the rest of television. That means that we have to bring them everything first, and if they pass on it we can't take it to another basic cable network. But we can go to broadcast--the five networks--or pay, like HBO Hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBO)
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 or Showtime show·time or show time  
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Q: How did you get into the television industry?

A: I loved movies and I loved television--all types, and I went to the University of Texas specifically to go to their film school. I worked on some movies in college, but I eventually came to the conclusion that television offered more opportunities to make an impact and have your voice heard in the process. My first job was as a program associate at Walt Disney/Touchstone Television, an entry level executive training position. I worked my way up to the director level before I moved to the WB.

Q: Coming into the business as a fan, did you ever become disenchanted dis·en·chant  
tr.v. dis·en·chant·ed, dis·en·chant·ing, dis·en·chants
To free from illusion or false belief; undeceive.



[Obsolete French desenchanter, from Old French,
 after learning how the process really worked?

A: I was certainly surprised by how many people didn't seem to love the medium they were in, or in some cases, have an appreciation or historical context for what they were doing. To me if you're in the movie business you should probably know about the Marx Brothers Marx Brothers, team of American movie comedians. The members were Julius (1890?–1977), known as Groucho; Arthur (1888?–1964), originally Adolph and known as Harpo; Leonard (1887?–1961), known as Chico; and two other brothers, Milton (Gummo) and  or who Howard Hawks This article or section needs copy editing for grammar, style, cohesion, tone and/or spelling.
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 is. And there are a lot of things that can make you cynical after you've been in the industry a while. But when something really works, and it connects with people and does so in an original way, that makes up for the lows. The highs can be few and far between, but they're pretty great.

Jordan Levin

Title: Founding partner

Company: Generate

Born: 1967, Chicago

Education; B.A., cure laude with special honors, University of Texas at Austin's College of Communications, Radio/Television/Film Department

Career Turning Point: Joining the original team that launched the WB television network

Most Admired Person: Jamie Kellner, founding chairman of WB

Hobbies: Skiing, fly fishing, surfing, wine collecting

Personal: Lives with wife Helen Hutchison in the Pacific Palisades Palisades, cliffs along the west bank of the Hudson River, NE N.J. and SE N.Y., extending from N of Jersey City, N.J., to the vicinity of Piermont, N.Y., with a general altitude of from 350 ft to 550 ft (107–168 m).  with their two daughters and one son
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