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T.R. Knight is just a regular guy: shy, disarming, charming to a fault, sharp as a tack, and anything but a victim--emerging from the center of the storm, T.R. Knight lays down his armor.


"I'm not going to keep my mouth closed anymore," says T.R. Knight. After more than a week of conversations--in person, by phone, by e-mail--that's the defining statement from the actor who's at the center of the storm of controversy that for the last nine months has engulfed ABC's Greys Anatomy.

From Knight, that's a lot. Speaking out doesn't come easily for him. Raised in Minnesota, he is naturally reserved and averse to talking about himself. "Don't get too big for your britches," he was warned as a boy, and he's always taken that to heart. Why would anyone care about him, much less what he thinks?

But if you saw Knight on TV at this year's GLAAD Media Awards The GLAAD Media Awards were created in 1990 by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation to recognize and honor the mainstream media for their fair, accurate and inclusive representations of the LGBT community and the issues that affect their lives.  in Los Angeles Los Angeles (lôs ăn`jələs, lŏs, ăn`jəlēz'), city (1990 pop. 3,485,398), seat of Los Angeles co., S Calif.; inc. 1850. , you can't shake the memory of the warm applause that became a standing ovation, his abashed demeanor in the spotlight, and his simple moment of truth. "I'm angry," he said--and paused, caught up in emotion. "I'm very angry at the inequality we face every day."

That anger, it seems, is one reason the press-shy Knight decided to sit down with The Advocate to give his first in-depth interview since coming out October 19 in a statement released to People magazine.

My first meeting with T.R. is over sushi at a Los Angeles restaurant of his choosing. He's late but scores points for politeness when he calls to apologize. He eventually arrives, literally running around the corner. He's coming from a workout session, something he began in earnest this year. His hair is mussed, and he looks rumpled and disarming. His fume fume Occupational medicine A solid suspension resulting from condensation of the products of combustion. See Inhalant Vox populi verbTo be in the midst of a mental mini-meltdown.  isn't the stalkerazzi kind: Although people sometimes glance at him from other tables, no one interrupts us.

Knight is clearly not accustomed to being interviewed. He is a charmingly awkward talker who pauses and frets over his words, stumbling over his sentences and backtracking (algorithm) backtracking - A scheme for solving a series of sub-problems each of which may have multiple possible solutions and where the solution chosen for one sub-problem may affect the possible solutions of later sub-problems.  repeatedly before apologizing for his verbal clumsiness. An innocuous question about what his parents do for a living results in a five-minute explanation of why he doesn't want to discuss that.

At first, his answers are vague and nonspecific nonspecific /non·spe·cif·ic/ (non?spi-sif´ik)
1. not due to any single known cause.

2. not directed against a particular agent, but rather having a general effect.


nonspecific

1.
 (perhaps an unintended result of spending a good chunk of his life in the closet professionally). At times trying to get any specific, personal information out of him feels like dealing with a skittish skit·tish  
adj.
1. Moving quickly and lightly; lively.

2. Restlessly active or nervous; restive.

3. Undependably variable; mercurial or fickle.

4. Shy; bashful.
 horse: Move too quickly and he might bolt. And soon he does--he excuses himself to go walk his dog, assuring me that he knows we aren't done talking yet. I hope he means it.

For a self-effacing guy, Knight has a job that's about as public as they come--he stars as Dr. George O'Malley George O'Malley is the name of a fictional character on the ABC television series Grey's Anatomy. The character is portrayed by actor T.R. Knight. Background
George O'Malley was born to Louise and Harold O'Malley, and was raised in or around Seattle, Washington.
 in ABC's hit drama Greys Anatomy, a show that's often the number 1-rated television drama and is sot to spin off another series in the fall. From the outset, Grey's has won points as progressive television, not just for its color-blind col·or·blind or col·or-blind  
adj.
1. Partially or totally unable to distinguish certain colors.

2.
a. Not subject to racial prejudices.

b.
 casting but also for its attitudes toward women and other minorities. Like gays.

Knight wasn't at the GLAAD GLAAD Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation  Awards in April just to collect applause. He was representing Grey's, nominated for Outstanding Individual Episode for "Where the Boys Are." (The episode won.) Ironically, it was during the filming of that episode--which touched on both gay and transgender transgender or transgendered
adj.
Transsexual.
 issues--that cast member Isaiah Washington got into an argument with actor Patrick Dempsey Patrick Galen Dempsey (born January 13, 1966) is a Golden Globe Award-nominated American actor who first became prominent in Hollywood during the late 1980s. He is also known for his role as neurosurgeon Dr. Derek Shepherd (Dr.  and referred to an unnamed fellow actor as a "faggot." The blogosphere The total universe of blogs. See blog.  immediately began to speculate about whom Washington meant, but before rumors could spread in earnest, Knight ended the guessing game with this statement to People: "I guess there have been a few questions about my sexuality, and I'd like to quiet any unnecessary rumors that may be out there. While I prefer to keep my personal life private, I hope the fact that I'm gay isn't the most interesting part of me." Thus began Knight's roller-coaster ride.

Knight readily admits he'd had no intention of coming out professionally. People counseled him to keep quiet, and if he had, the 34-year-old believes, the questions would have died down as quickly as they arose. Still, he's clear that he doesn't feel he was outed. "I made the decision to make a statement," he says. "I could have not [spoken up]. I could have retreated. But I'm definitely happy I made the decision."

Though his friends were "beautifully supportive," other people told him, "Don't do it--don't do it now." To his own surprise, he kept moving forward.

"I remember saying to someone when I got one of these 'don't do it' [comments]--I just remember hearing my voice being very calm and saying, 'No, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. I'm just letting you know.'"

Knight was so unused to dealing with the press he wasn't even sure how to proceed. He called his publicist and said he wanted to come out, asking, "What do you do? Is there a phone call you make?"

After our initial meeting, Knight and I sit down for a second go at it, this time at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery Hollywood Forever Cemetery is located at 6000 Santa Monica Boulevard in the Hollywood district of Los Angeles, California. It is adjacent to the north wall, or back, of Paramount Studios, who, with RKO Studios, bought 40 acres by 1920.  on Santa Monica Santa Monica (săn`tə mŏn`ĭkə), city (1990 pop. 86,905), Los Angeles co., S Calif., on Santa Monica Bay; inc. 1886. Tourism and retailing are important, and the city has motion-picture, biotechnology, and software industries.  Boulevard. It's not a haunt of his: He chose it because it would be easy for me to get to from my hotel room--once more proving what a gentleman he is. It's a lovely afternoon, the grounds are quiet, and we find a bench near the tombstone Tombstone, city (1990 pop. 1,220), Cochise co., SE Ariz.; inc. 1881. With its pleasant climate and legendary past, Tombstone is a well-known tourist attraction. The city became a national historic landmark in 1962.  of a great-grandmother named Berta.

Walking the grounds, Knight is dressed casually again, this time in warm-up pants and a T-shirt. For a Minnesota boy, he's eager to talk--without making his job more difficult or blurting out too much personal information. At one point he stops to straighten a bunch of tipped-over flowers on a grave site.

"This is something that's bigger than [my career]," says Knight, trying to describe his feelings about coming out. "How selfish it would be to only think of myself and my life as an actor when you are weighing it against the severe homophobia that [coming out] addresses."

He's quick to add the humbling qualifiers. He doesn't deserve any special credit; this is not a sacrifice. But he does hope his action encourages others to follow suit. And there are people he'd like to help.

"I guess, specifically, it's younger gay people," he says. "I wish I'd had more people to look at--and I'm not talking about any sort of role models--just more people to look at, more stories, more honesty, less hate."

He realizes there's no telling how it might affect his career. But after all, there have been rewards. For one, Rosie O'Donnell sent him a toaster See intranet toaster and Video Toaster.

(jargon) toaster - 1. The archetypal really stupid application for an embedded microprocessor controller; often used in comments that imply that a scheme is inappropriate technology (but see elevator controller).
. "It makes great toast," he laughs.

Theodore Raymond Knight Oscar Raymond ("Ray") Knight (8 April 1872—7 February 1947) was a prominent Latter-day Saint settler of what is today Southern Alberta. Knight instituted the Raymond Stampede, the oldest and longest-running rodeo in Canada.  is loath to talk about his family and friends. His reluctance is wrapped up in his struggle with being gay--or more specifically, struggles with how society treats people who are gay.

Some gay actors cite "privacy" as a convenient excuse not to come out professionally, even though they love to suck up to draw into the mouth; to draw up by suction or absorption.

See also: Suck
 the spotlight in all other aspects of their lives. Knight isn't like that. "The reason I act is--" he pauses, starts again. "You can disappear and not be yourself. You can get out of it for a while. You get away from you. That's what I liked about acting."

Maybe one thing Knight wants to get away from is the pain he felt growing up gay. At age 5 he was acting at Minneapolis's famed Guthrie Theater The Guthrie Theater is a professional theater company in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It was the result of Sir Tyrone Guthrie's desire for a new kind of theater that would provide an atmosphere which would encourage the production of great works of literature and cultivate actors' . His first role was Tiny Tim Tiny Tim

crippled son of Bob Cratchit. [Br. Lit.: A Christmas Carol]

See : Lameness
 in A Christmas Carol. (Adorable, right?) While he realizes that any theater kid will get teased at school, the taunts he received were more severe.

In particular, T.R. remembers this: When he was in junior high, someone donated a wooden play set for the kids to use. Shortly after it arrived another student spray-painted it all over with slurs including T.R. KNIGHT IS A HOMOSEXUAL.

"Someone came up to me and said that there was something written about me, and I went out and looked at it," says Knight. "I didn't ... I don't think I even really knew what it was about, but I knew it was not good. I knew it was wrong. I tried to scrub it off first, and it wasn't coming off, because it obviously was black paint on wood, and then I went asking [the janitors], and they took care of it."

To Knight, the most upsetting part wasn't the juvenile name-calling but that the people who were running the Catholic school did nothing. He was just expected to keep quiet.

He took refuge in his acting ambitions. He got serious about the craft in high school. At 25 he moved to New York City New York City: see New York, city.
New York City

City (pop., 2000: 8,008,278), southeastern New York, at the mouth of the Hudson River. The largest city in the U.S.
 to try to make it as an actor. The first thing he learned was how to survive on $20 a week. "I'd buy a bunch of broccoli, a can of Campbell's cream of mushroom soup, a box of noodles noo·dle 1  
n.
A narrow, ribbonlike strip of dried dough, usually made of flour, eggs, and water.



[German Nudel.
, and one or two cans of tuna, and you mix that all together, and that would last me three days, and that's what I'd eat. And you'd space it so it'd be like two meals a day."

Working in theater, Knight naturally was being asked out on dates by men. Friends asked if he was gay, and in time he was ready to come out in his private life. He lost some friends over that and walked away from others who said they had problems with his sexuality for religious reasons.

It's likely that Knight also paid a personal price for coming out professionally. Though he's leery of mentioning other people in his life, even those with whom he's not friendly anymore, it's reasonable to assume that any friends who are closeted clos·et·ed  
adj.
Being In a state of secrecy or cautious privacy.
 would fret about having been seen with Knight in public. Since he came out, even banal photos of him shopping at the mall with friends get posted on the Web.

All the drama is just so not him. His best friend on the set of Grey's is Katherine Heigl Katherine Marie Heigl (born November 24, 1978) is an Emmy-winning and Golden Globe-nominated American actress and former fashion model. Biography
Early life
Heigl was born in Washington, D.C.
, who plays Dr. Izzie Stevens Isobel "Izzie" Stevens is a fictional character on the ABC television series Grey's Anatomy. The character is portrayed by actress Katherine Heigl. Katherine Heigl was nominated for Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion . Her description of how he came out to her sums up Knight perfectly. "He actually didn't just flat-out tell me," says Heigl. "There came a point where we were close enough friends that he would just talk about dates or about other guys. It was revealed in just a really natural way--a 'this is the way it is' way. I wasn't shocked or surprised, like, 'Oh, my God--you're really gay?' It was more just like, 'Oh, OK Now I know why you don't want to go out with me.'"

Knight insists that his gay life isn't exactly headline material anyway. "Not that I've had the most successful dating experiences," he laughs. "I won't say [fears of being outed] didn't register with me at all, but it wasn't enough to keep me from going out. I have to live my life. It wasn't going to be some sort of, you know, cloak-and-dagger thing." He says he's currently single but won't comment on whether he was dating anyone when he decided to come out last October.

Now that Knight's out to the world, the rules have changed. "It probably wouldn't be a good idea to date a closeted celebrity," he jokes. On the plus side, now that everyone knows he's gay, the reticent Knight could find himself fielding a lot more potential boyfriends. Asked to talk about whether he's noticed any changes, T.R. laughs and says he still assumes people aren't interested in him. Then comes his qualifier: "Too much aggression isn't a good thing either."

Despite some solid credits and the occasional commercial that kept him afloat financially, the 1990s were a struggle professionally. Then he hit rock bottom. Knight was fired from an off-Broadway show and lost his agent a few months later. If he'd looked like Brad Pitt, he was told, agents might have been able to sell him better. As for the show, a Restoration comedy, Knight was professional but just didn't click in the role for director Doug Hughes. Typically, Knight agonizes over mentioning Hughes (the director of Doubt and the current hit revival Inherit the Wind), although he's a great admirer of the director and doesn't harbor any ill feelings.

When he got an offer to star in Amadeus at the Guthrie back in Minneapolis, Knight decided he'd come hill circle. He would do that final role and then move on from acting.

But he was urged repeatedly by supporters at the Roundabout Theatre Company The Roundabout Theatre Company is the largest non-profit theatre company based in New York City. They own two Broadway theatres (Studio 54 and the American Airlines Theatre) and one Off-Broadway theatre (the Laura Pels Theatre in the Harold and Miriam Steinberg Center for Arts).  to come back to New York New York, state, United States
New York, Middle Atlantic state of the United States. It is bordered by Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and the Atlantic Ocean (E), New Jersey and Pennsylvania (S), Lakes Erie and Ontario and the Canadian province of
 and audition for a Broadway revival of the British farce Noises Off. Knight could barely afford the ticket, but he made the trip and won the role of frazzled stage manager Tim Allgood. Suddenly, he was being taken seriously. More roles quickly followed, capped by the soon-canceled sitcom Charlie Lawrence starring Nathan Lane Nathan Lane (born February 3, 1956) is a Tony Award- and Emmy Award-winning actor of the stage and screen. Biography
Early life
Lane was born Joseph Lane in Jersey City, New Jersey, the son of Irish American Catholic parents.
. In 2005 came the big break, Grey's Anatomy Editing of this page by unregistered or newly registered users is currently disabled. .

Knight insists he doesn't see himself as hitting the lottery with Grey's, mostly because he's conditioned to expect the worst. Eventually the show will come to an end, who knows if he'll build a long-term career after this success, and so on. For now, he is on a hit show that has won critical acclaim. It's an actor's dream. At least it was.

With its utopian outlook on matters including race, it's ironic that Grey's Anatomy ended up at the center of a nasty controversy based on bigotry. At first it seemed to media observers that the show's creator, Shonda Rhimes Shonda Rhimes is a screenwriter, director and producer. She is best known as the creator and executive producer of television series Grey's Anatomy and its spin-off Private Practice . , was more concerned about putting the episode behind her than dealing forthrightly with what happened and taking the proper steps. She said it was a brief incident and that everyone had moved on. When it was later suggested that another black actor might replace Washington, she took offense.

That seemed to be all until Washington stirred the pot again, lying to reporters at the Golden Globe awards by denying what he had said. Knight then went on The Ellen DeGeneres Ellen Lee DeGeneres (born January 26, 1958) is an American stand-up comedian, actress, and currently the Emmy Award-winning host of the syndicated talk show The Ellen DeGeneres Show.

DeGeneres has hosted both the Academy Awards and the Primetime Emmys.
 Show (Ellen and T.R. share the same PR firm) and made it clear that Washington had indeed called him a faggot, a word he described ironically to Ellen as "awesome." Washington then issued another statement of apology, entered rehab or counseling, and is now reportedly planning a public service announcement for GLAAD.

But what about Knight? When asked if Washington had apologized to him personally, Knight initially responded, "Which time?" Then, when pressed, he said, "What a lovely blue sky." When queried about whether Rhimes had come to him and asked what he wanted to happen, he paused thoughtfully before saying, "I like blueberries. Do you like blueberries?"

Washington's publicist declined an interview request.

Rhimes also declined an interview. She did send The Advocate this statement: "T.R. is an incredible actor and an amazing person. From his ability to play comedic moments to his work in the episode where George's father dies, his range is a writer's dream. We are equally proud of his decision to come out. He is an inspiration."

That still doesn't tell us anything about what really happened. But this much is true: Whatever went down has inspired T.R. Knight to come out of his shell. Halting as he might be on some subjects, ask him about intolerance, and his words come out in a torrent. He's riled rile  
tr.v. riled, ril·ing, riles
1. To stir to anger. See Synonyms at annoy.

2. To stir up (liquid); roil.



[Variant of roil.]

Adj. 1.
 by the hypocrisy of certain religions that teach God loves everyone but then excludes gays (and other groups).

"You are taught you are wrong, that you are bad. [So] you don't do anything, and you wrap yourself in a little straitjacket straitjacket /strait·jack·et/ (strat´jak?et) informal name for camisole.

strait·jack·et or straight·jack·et
n.
, and you put yourself in your little room," says Knight. "Don't do it! Don't look at someone, don't touch them, don't kiss them, don't do anything!' Then maybe it's OK. I mean, sure, that plagued me all through childhood, you know, in so many ways, and that's stuff that's hard to get away from. But you have to, and eventually, you know, you do."

Another topic that gets him going is marriage equality. "I still get angry because we shouldn't even be having this conversation," he says. Yes, he sees signs of progress. "But we shouldn't be having this conversation at all. It disgusts me."

Back in TV land, Knight's character recently married Dr. Callie Torres This articlearticle or section has multiple issues:
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 (Sara Ramirez of Broadway's Spamalot). As of now his character has slept with his crush, Meredith Grey Meredith Grey is a fictional character and the series protagonist on the ABC television series Grey's Anatomy. The character is portrayed by actress Ellen Pompeo, and was created by Shonda Rhimes, who says that Meredith is the character who best reflects her own  (Ellen Pompeo), as well as his best friend, Izzie (Katherine Heigl). That's quite a bit of "action" for a gay actor, and it should provide at least a bit of encouragement for other actors lurking in the closet in order to protect their status as romantic leads. But this season--which included the death of O'Malley's father--was overshadowed in real life by "the incident."

Luckily, Knight has good friends on the show. Heigl looks out for him. Tired of hearing him idly wish for a dog, she gave him one--a Lab mix he named Arrow--for his birthday this year. Finding the puppy in his downtown apartment is still a bit of a surprise for Knight.

"We're still looking at each other like, Why are you here? I'm like, Don't cop an attitude. It's me. I was here first, And she says, I'm more important than you. And look at me when I look at you with my cute little eyes. Don't you feel sorry for me?"

In other words Adv. 1. in other words - otherwise stated; "in other words, we are broke"
put differently
, he's besotted be·sot  
tr.v. be·sot·ted, be·sot·ting, be·sots
To muddle or stupefy, as with alcoholic liquor or infatuation.



[be- + sot, to stupefy (from sot, fool
. So Knight looks forward to going home every day. But does he look forward to going to work?

"I'm showing up and doing my job," says Knight flatly, after yet another thoughtful pause to choose his words. "I'm getting paid to play this role, and my job is to do it to the best of my ability, to pretend as best you can. You know, that's acting; that's why they hired me, and that's what I do."

Many have suggested that if the roles had been reversed--if Knight had directed a bigoted big·ot·ed  
adj.
Being or characteristic of a bigot: a bigoted person; an outrageously bigoted viewpoint.



big
 slur at Washington--it would have seemed obvious that Knight at least deserved to be fired. But Knight isn't interested in a debate over which word is worse than which.

"I don't want to get into a word comparison--this word versus that word," says Knight. "All those words are soaked in blood. Whatever word it is, if it's the last word that someone screams at you before you're killed--whether it's about your sexuality About Your Sexuality, or AYS, was a sex education course published by the Unitarian Universalist Association in 1970, with further revisions in 1973, 1978 and 1983.[1] The course materials were originally developed by Derek Calderwood.  or your religion or your race--that's hate. That's all this is about. And if people need to learn that when it comes to sexual orientation sexual orientation
n.
The direction of one's sexual interest toward members of the same, opposite, or both sexes, especially a direction seen to be dictated by physiologic rather than sociologic forces.
, then they need to learn that.

"You can't say one word is worse than another unless you say one life is worth more than another. You need to keep on educating and educating the ignorant until they listen and hear. And understand. Not tolerate. But understand."

Knight is sure to be more politically active in the future. But getting him to talk about what he's proud of isn't easy, even if he is more willing to speak up than ever before. "I'm proud of a lot of things," says Knight. "I'm proud of some of my decisions this year. There are some I haven't been proud of, but I'm proud of the ones pertaining to being gay." He laughs. "I'm not happy with what I ate this morning."

Photographed by Jim Wright exclusively for The Advocate

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Morning daily tabloid newspaper published in New York City. It was founded in 1919 by Joseph Medill Patterson and his cousin Robert McCormick as a subsidiary of the Tribune Co. of Chicago. The first successful tabloid-format newspaper in the U.S.
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