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PUBLIC FORUM : THE REAL ISSUE IS WHETHER TRUTH MATTERS.

The question, as we approach crunch time vis-a-vis the impeachment impeachment, formal accusation issued by a legislature against a public official charged with crime or other serious misconduct. In a looser sense the term is sometimes applied also to the trial by the legislature that may follow.  and removal of Bill Clinton from office as president, is whether Republicans are going to exist as leaders in their own right or whether they are going to continue to be pathetic little lapdogs of unelected, unaccountable, extra-constitutional entities such as the press, academia, etc.

The American media, insanely jealous of their own place at the table of political turpitude Conduct that is unjust, depraved, or shameful; that which is contrary to justice, modesty, or good morals.

Moral turpitude is a term that frequently appears in statutes, especially those providing that if a witness has been convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude,
, will publicly drop every pretense of objectivity and baldly lobby the ignorant among us for support. They will do anything and everything in their power to stop the impeachment of William Jefferson William Jefferson can refer to more than one person.
  • William J. Jefferson, Louisiana Democratic congressman
  • Will Jefferson, English cricketer
See also:
  • William Jefferson Clinton, better known as Bill Clinton, U.S.
 Clinton.

This is a contest not so much between Congress and a president as between the political principles of a Machiavelli and the framers of our Constitution. This confrontation has been a long time brewing, and however much defenders of the modern regime want to portray this as a matter of Clinton-hating, a serious moral principle is writ large in the conflict.

Do we affirm, as a matter of American jurisprudence American Jurisprudence (often referred to as Am. Jur. 2d) is an encyclopedia of United States law, published by Thomson West. It was originated by Lawyers Cooperative Publishing, which was subsequently acquired by the Thomson Corporation. , that there is an objective good, and thus an objective measure of truth and falsehood, or is truth a fluid and manipulable concept, one to be used as one can for one's perceived benefit?

Clinton and his defenders affirm the latter, while Republicans, by and large, affirm the first. That being so, Republicans had better understand that to give in on this argument is to place our Constitution not just at risk, but completely beyond the bounds of rational political discourse.

- Jim Newland Jr.

Santa Clarita Santa Clarita, city (1990 pop. 110,642), Los Angeles co., S Calif., suburb 30 mi (48 km) NW of downtown Los Angeles, on the Santa Clara River; inc. 1987. Situated in the Santa Clara valley and nearby canyons, Santa Clarita includes the former towns of Canyon Country,  

Now that the House Judiciary Committee Judiciary Committee may refer to:
  • U.S. House Committee on the Judiciary
  • U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary
 has voted out four articles of impeachment Formal written allegations of the causes that warrant the criminal trial of a public official before a quasi-political court.

In cases of Impeachment, involving the president, vice president, or other federal officers, the House of Representatives prepares the articles of
, the disgraceful $4 million attack on President Clinton will continue to cost the taxpayer dearly.

The cost is not merely in money. The greater cost is in respect for our representatives who have turned a deaf ear to the will of the people, and a blind eye to the Constitution.

In its total arrogance, the majority redefined ``high crimes and misdemeanors'' to include a sordid, tawdry, consensual sexual transgress. It rubber-stamped Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's referral, thereby accepting as fact testimony that went unchallenged by cross-examination.

The majority on the committee has mocked the Founding Fathers, the Constitution and the will of the people. In voting out these articles, it has brought shame and disgrace to the House, which poses a far graver threat to our nation than any allegation of wrongdoing wrong·do·er  
n.
One who does wrong, especially morally or ethically.



wrongdo
 leveled at President Clinton.

- Doris Shaw

Encino

In ``Polls have little clout with GOP,'' Daily News, Dec. 13, Steven Thomma writes:

``In poll after poll, the American people An American people may be:
  • any nation or ethnic group of the Americas
  • see Demographics of North America
  • see Demographics of South America
 have said for months that they don't want President Clinton impeached. Yet the Republicans who control the House apparently aren't listening. Is it simple arrogance? Are they blinded by their hatred of Clinton? Could they be bent on Adj. 1. bent on - fixed in your purpose; "bent on going to the theater"; "dead set against intervening"; "out to win every event"
bent, dead set, out to
 political suicide Political suicide is the concept that a politician or political party would lose widespread support and confidence from the voting public by proprosing actions that are seen as unfavourable or that might threaten the status quo. ?

``That's what Clinton aides and congressional Democrats argue, that the will of the people has been expressed in national polls and again in November's congressional elections. And that the message is loud and clear: Don't impeach To accuse; to charge a liability upon; to sue. To dispute, disparage, deny, or contradict; as in to impeach a judgment or decree, or impeach a witness; or as used in the rule that a jury cannot impeach its verdict.  him.''

Thomma and the Democrats are wrong and it is the Republicans who are right. And it's because they are watching the polls that really matter, the online polls. Take the latest Online Poll at AOL (A division of Time Warner, Inc., New York, NY, www.aol.com) The world's largest online information service with access to the Internet, e-mail, chat rooms and a variety of databases and services.  for example. Following are the results to just two of the questions asked.

``Should the president resign to spare the country from impeachment proceedings?'' Yes, 59 percent; No, 37.4 percent.

The truth is that it is the mainstream media and the Democrats who are out of touch with the American people, the ones too tired and fed up to vote after a hard day's work (Naut.) the account or reckoning of a ship's course for twenty-four hours, from noon to noon.

See also: Day
. But just wait until the voting process gets e-mail easy. At that time this country will then experience another sharp turn to the right and liberalism will finally meet its fate.

- R.V. Breor

Reseda

So, while in the midst Adv. 1. in the midst - the middle or central part or point; "in the midst of the forest"; "could he walk out in the midst of his piece?"
midmost
 of a civil lawsuit re sexual harassment sexual harassment, in law, verbal or physical behavior of a sexual nature, aimed at a particular person or group of people, especially in the workplace or in academic or other institutional settings, that is actionable, as in tort or under equal-opportunity statutes. , Clinton denied having a separate, unrelated, consentual, sexual affair, causing a great howl of outrage from folks who refuse to give credence to equal rights for women.

And this is supposed to make me mad enough to want him removed from office? Get real. Only noncorporate men and women would dare to utter such a blatantly nonsensical statement. Sexual harassment has been going on forever and it's not going away any time soon. The truly scary men are the ones who don't even know they're doing it. They smile and condescend con·de·scend  
intr.v. con·de·scend·ed, con·de·scend·ing, con·de·scends
1. To descend to the level of one considered inferior; lower oneself. See Synonyms at stoop1.

2.
 honey-sweetie, while patting us on the behind and believe it complimentary. To these men, women will always be ornaments. You think we don't know Don't know (DK, DKed)

"Don't know the trade." A Street expression used whenever one party lacks knowledge of a trade or receives conflicting instructions from the other party.
 that sex is rampant amongst elite Republicans?

Talk about denial. Leave President Clinton alone.

- Sharon Kanan

Encino

The president should not be impeached. Neither should he be censured. The 25th Amendment (disability clause) should be invoked.

Let me explain. Clinton is a sick man. He doesn't know the difference between truth and reality and false unreality. In addition he is addicted to a perversion Perversion
See also Bestiality.

bondage and domination (B & D)

practices with whips, chains, etc. for sexual pleasure. [Western Cult.: Misc.
 of what normal people call sex.

The 25th Amendment says that if a president is too sick to carry out the responsibilities of his office, he can be removed.

The vice president will take over. A year or 18 months from now, after a series of psychiatric examinations, Clinton could be declared ``cured'' and fill out the term of his office.

In my opinion everyone wins, especially the people of the United States United States, officially United States of America, republic (2005 est. pop. 295,734,000), 3,539,227 sq mi (9,166,598 sq km), North America. The United States is the world's third largest country in population and the fourth largest country in area. .

- George Noonan

Sylmar

Henry Hyde claimed his Friday vote to recommend impeachment was for his honor. How can one vote for something that doesn't exist?

Hyde is a liar and a hypocrite and a destroyer. They are all liars and hypocrites and destroyers.

I'm not sure if these ``leaders'' are intellectual midgets unable to grasp the seriousness of their sins against the Constitution or moral monsters willing to subvert that document to gain petty, partisan revenge. Whichever is the case, they are either without brain or conscience.

No intelligent and fair-minded person can believe the president's sins, venial ve·ni·al  
adj.
1. Easily excused or forgiven; pardonable: a venial offense.

2. Roman Catholic Church Minor, therefore warranting only temporal punishment.
 and stupid though they were, in any way reach the level of seriousness intended by the framers when they borrowed from British common law the phrase ``high crimes and misdemeanors The offenses for which presidents, vice presidents, and all civil officers, including federal judges, can be removed from office through a process called Impeachment.

The phrase high crimes and misdemeanors is found in the U.S. Constitution.
.''

- Jim Turner

Granada Hills

I am a registered Democrat who has voted Republican in the past two presidential elections. Then and as well as now, I find Bill Clinton totally lacking in the leadership and moral qualities held by some of my heroes in the Democratic Party in the past.

If Democrats really want a strong presidency, they will do whatever they can to encourage President Clinton to once again become citizen Clinton so as not to put our country through any more of this agony.

- Bob McKay

North Hills

The House Judiciary Committee has voted, along party lines, to bring articles of impeachment to the floor of the House. The vote was the same after testimony as before.

They made their decision on political, not factual, evidence. It is this kind of action that causes the majority of Americans to have contempt and disgust at the politicians and lawyers of the country.

As an American and a government employee, I am ashamed of what is going on. How can I justify serving on a jury? What is the sense of voting when the will of the people is ignored? How can I travel to a foreign country and hold my head up as an American?

- Robert A. Hamburg

West Hills

Kimit A. Muston's letter (``Clinton's strongest assets are his enemies,'' Public Forum, Dec. 11) screams for a response.

Muston obviously considers anyone right of Rep. Maxine Waters a ``right-wing radical.'' Since I believe in God, the rule of law, the right to keep and bear arms and the sanctity of the life of a fetus, I obviously fall into Muston's cursed category, the more so since I am firmly convinced that President Clinton is a congenital liar and, as with all liars, his lies finally caught up with him.

Where is the concern for women if this lecher is not impeached? Women in the workplace will become fair game and the feminist movement will be set back 50 years. But not one word is heard from the feminist groups, which have long since sold their souls to the radical left.

Recently, Newt Gingrich resigned as speaker of the House, a position he had always cherished. He resigned because he felt his leadership had been so damaged that he could no longer effectively lead his party, a heroic act of self-sacrifice.

On the other hand we have President Clinton, whose machinations have introduced a whole new vocabulary to our children, whose penchant for power has corrupted all those who serve him and whose clinging adamantly to his office has divided the nation.

A real man would do the honorable thing and resign. Perhaps in the politically correct politically correct Politically sensitive adjective Referring to language reflecting awareness and sensitivity to another person's physical, mental, cultural, or other disadvantages or deviations from a norm; a person is not mentally retarded, but  idiom of the left, Clinton is ``honor challenged.''

- H. L. Bradbury

Granada Hills

Why don't we all stop all this posturing and get down to the bottom line. It is all about politics.

Members of Congress aren't interested in the country, the people and what is right or wrong.

It all boils down to getting elected or re-elected.

It is right to impeach Clinton because it is the right thing to do. Statements that impeachment will disrupt the government, the country and the orderly flow of life don't hold water.

- John Piccola

Sylmar

Second Amendment

Robert Becking (Public Forum, Sept. 10) asserts that the Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment does not guarantee the right of citizens to have firearms. He is wrong.

The court discussed the meaning of the Second Amendment in United States vs. Miller in 1939. The court concluded that the militia comprised all males physically capable of acting for the common defense.

- Robert Harding

Granada Hills
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