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MASS CONFUSION? CHURCH TO TACKLE TRANSLATION ISSUE.


Byline: CHARLES F. BOSTWICK Staff Writer

Some of the prayers and responses memorized by America's Roman Catholics over the past four decades could be changed under a controversial plan to create a more accurate translation of the Latin Mass The term Latin Mass refers to the liturgy of the Roman Catholic Mass celebrated in Latin.

Specifically, the term is frequently used to denote the Tridentine Mass: that is, the Roman-Rite liturgy of the Mass celebrated in accordance with the successive editions of the Roman
.

The revisions to be debated by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, who will gather today in Los Angeles Los Angeles (lôs ăn`jələs, lŏs, ăn`jəlēz'), city (1990 pop. 3,485,398), seat of Los Angeles co., S Calif.; inc. 1850. , represent the biggest changes to the Mass since those that followed the Second Vatican Council Noun 1. Second Vatican Council - the Vatican Council in 1962-1965 that abandoned the universal Latin liturgy and acknowledged ecumenism and made other reforms
Vatican II

Vatican Council - each of two councils of the Roman Catholic Church
 in the 1960s.

Heeding a 2001 directive approved by the late Pope John Paul II Pope John Paul II (Latin: Ioannes Paulus PP. II, Italian: Giovanni Paolo II, Polish: Jan Paweł II) born Karol Józef Wojtyła   to correct errors and omissions errors and omissions n. short-hand for malpractice insurance which gives physicians, attorneys, architects, accountants and other professionals coverage for claims by patients and clients for alleged professional errors and omissions which amount to negligence.  in the language of public worship worldwide -- and following years of complaints from a segment of Catholics that the English-language Mass became a watered-down, Protestantized version of the Latin it replaced -- the proposed revisions are intended to reflect a more precise translation from the Latin.

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 for the Latin,'' said Bishop Gerald Wilkerson, head of the church's San Fernando Pastoral Region The San Fernando Pastoral Region is a pastoral region of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in the Roman Catholic Church. It covers the San Fernando, Santa Clarita, and Antelope Valleys. The current regional auxiliary bishop is Bishop Gerald E. Wilkerson. .

``The previous translations after Vatican II Noun 1. Vatican II - the Vatican Council in 1962-1965 that abandoned the universal Latin liturgy and acknowledged ecumenism and made other reforms
Second Vatican Council

Vatican Council - each of two councils of the Roman Catholic Church
 were (based on) principles that were different. The principles were that it should be an equivalent translation. It wouldn't have to be a literal translation.''

Under the proposals, the exchange between priest and congregation of ``The Lord be with you / And also with you'' would become ``The Lord be with you / And with your spirit.''

That change is a translation of the earlier Latin: ``Dominus vobiscum / Et cum spiritu tuo.''

Spanish-language Masses, celebrated in Catholic churches all around Southern California, say ``And with your spirit'' -- ``y con tu espiritu.''

The profession of faith that summarizes Catholic doctrine now starts: ``We believe ...'' The new proposal is to say, ``I believe,'' as the Latin prayer started with ``Credo,'' or ``I believe.''

The proposed revisions are to be voted on by some 250 bishops and cardinals at the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops spring meeting, a three-day gathering at the Millennium Biltmore hotel The Biltmore Hotel is a hotel located in downtown Los Angeles, California. Built by John McEntee Bowman, it opened in 1923. At the time, it was the largest hotel west of Chicago and designed by architects Schultze and Weaver. It is now named the Millennium Biltmore. .

The proposals have previously come before the bishops and have been sent back for revisions, and there is no guarantee they will be approved this time.

Approval requires a two-thirds vote from the bishops.

Wilkerson, who will be among those voting, said he finds no fault with some of the proposed revisions, but that others as written now are unclear or awkward.

One problem, Wilkerson said, is that the revisions are being done for English-speaking peoples around the world. Bishops for England, Wales Wales, Welsh Cymru, western peninsula and political division (principality) of Great Britain (1991 pop. 2,798,200), 8,016 sq mi (20,761 sq km), west of England; politically united with England since 1536. The capital is Cardiff.  and Australia have already adopted similar revisions.

``The way the British say things is not always the way Americans say things,'' Wilkerson said.

If the changes are approved, Catholics will need to relearn Verb 1. relearn - learn something again, as after having forgotten or neglected it; "After the accident, he could not walk for months and had to relearn how to walk down stairs"  the familiar prayers and responses they say every Sunday.

``I think after 35 or 40 years most of us have memorized most of the responses at Mass,'' Wilkerson said. ``If this is passed ... we'll have to have a book. The phrases change.''

Some think changing decades-old prayers will only upset rank-and-file Catholics, who over the past few years have already seen priests and former priests hauled into court to face child-molestation charges and who overwhelmingly feel comfortable with the existing prayers.

``The people in the pews are going to scratch their heads and say: `What? Why?''' said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a Jesuit priest who is a former editor of the Jesuits' America magazine and has written books on the Catholic Church's organization and politics.

``There is nothing heretical he·ret·i·cal  
adj.
1. Of or relating to heresy or heretics.

2. Characterized by, revealing, or approaching departure from established beliefs or standards.
 about what is said right now. They're not going to be more beautiful. In fact, they're going to be more confusing.''

The present translations were prepared 40 years ago with input from bishops, translators and even poets, he said. He predicted that bishops who vote for the revisions will do so not out of belief they are an improvement, but out of loyalty and respect for the Vatican.

For Catholics old enough to remember the switch from Latin some 40 years ago, Reese said, ``You're going to have to tell them, `We did it wrong the first time.' This is not something the church in the United States needs today.''

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