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Ibn Sina--Al-Biruni correspondence.


In this third installment of the correspondence between Ibn Sina Ibn Sina: see Avicenna.  and al-Biruni, five more questions are asked and answered. Al-Biruni rejects Aristotle's reasoning for his assertion that if the heavens were to be elliptical el·lip·tic   or el·lip·ti·cal
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or having the shape of an ellipse.

2. Containing or characterized by ellipsis.

3.
a.
 rather than spherical spher·i·cal
adj.
Having the shape of or approximating a sphere; globular.
, a vacuum would be created. Al-Biruni also objects to Aristotle's assertion that the motion of the heavens begins from the right side and from the east. In his eighth question, al-Biruni asks how is it that Aristotle considered the element fire to be spherical. The ninth question deals with the movement of heat and the tenth with the transformation of elements into each other. Ibn Sina responds to all questions.

Keywords: Ibn Sina-al-Biruni correspondence; shape of the heavens; criticism of Aristotle's reasoning for the spherical motion of the heavens; sublunar sub·lu·na·ry   also sub·lu·nar
adj.
1. Situated beneath the moon.

2. Of this world; earthly.



[Late Latin subl
 physics; theory of transformation of elements.

(33) The Sixth Question: [Aristotle] has mentioned in Book II that [the shape of the heaven is of necessity spherical because] the oval and the lenticular lenticular /len·tic·u·lar/ (len-tik´u-ler)
1. pertaining to or shaped like a lens.

2. pertaining to the lens of the eye.

3. pertaining to the lenticular nucleus.
 shapes would require space and void whereas the sphere does not, but the matter is not so. In fact, the oval [shape] is generated by the rotation of ellipse ellipse, closed plane curve consisting of all points for which the sum of the distances between a point on the curve and two fixed points (foci) is the same. It is the conic section formed by a plane cutting all the elements of the cone in the same nappe.  around its major axis major axis
n.
The longer of the two lines about which an ellipse is symmetrical; the axis that passes through both focuses of an ellipse.

Noun 1.
 and the lenticular by its rotation around its minor axis Noun 1. minor axis - the shorter or shortest axis of an ellipse or ellipsoid
axis - a straight line through a body or figure that satisfies certain conditions

semiminor axis - one-half the minor axis of an ellipse
. As there is no difference concerning the rotation around the axes axes

[L., Gr.] plural of axis. The straight lines which intersect at right angles and on which graphs are drawn. Usually the horizontal axis is the x-axis and the vertical one the y-axis. Called also axes of reference.
 by which they are generated, therefore none of what Aristotle mentions would occur and only the essential attributes of the spheres would follow necessarily. If the axis of rotation Noun 1. axis of rotation - the center around which something rotates
axis

mechanism - device consisting of a piece of machinery; has moving parts that perform some function
 of the oval is its major axis and if the axis of rotation of the lenticular is its minor axis, they would revolve re·volve  
v. re·volved, re·volv·ing, re·volves

v.intr.
1. To orbit a central point.

2. To turn on an axis; rotate. See Synonyms at turn.

3.
 like the sphere, without needing an empty space (makan khal). This could happen, however, if the axis of [rotation of] the oval is its minor axis and the axis of [rotation of] the lenticular is its major axis. In spite of this, it is possible that the oval can rotate around its minor axis and the lenticular around its major axis, both moving consecutively without needing an empty space, like the movement of bodies inside the celestial sphere celestial sphere, imaginary sphere of infinite radius with the earth at its center. It is used for describing the positions and motions of stars and other objects. , according to according to
prep.
1. As stated or indicated by; on the authority of: according to historians.

2. In keeping with: according to instructions.

3.
 the opinion of most people. And I am not saying this with the belief that the celestial sphere is not spherical, but oval or lenticular; I have tried hard to refute re·fute  
tr.v. re·fut·ed, re·fut·ing, re·futes
1. To prove to be false or erroneous; overthrow by argument or proof: refute testimony.

2.
 this theory but I am amazed a·maze  
v. a·mazed, a·maz·ing, a·maz·es

v.tr.
1. To affect with great wonder; astonish. See Synonyms at surprise.

2. Obsolete To bewilder; perplex.

v.intr.
 at the reasons offered by the man of logic.

(34) The Answer: Yes--may Allah lengthen length·en  
tr. & intr.v. length·ened, length·en·ing, length·ens
To make or become longer.



lengthen·er n.
 your life--your objection to Aristotle is sound and I have clarified this matter in some of my writings. Every commentator [of Aristotle] has offered apologies for his views. What comes to my mind now is what Themistius has said in his commentary on Kitab al-Sama', [that is], that the Philosopher's views should be interpreted in the best possible way. So we say that no void whatsoever would result from the circular movement of the sphere, whereas this is possible in the case of the oval and lenticular shapes. Despite this apology, he still denounces Aristotle's view, for it is possible to prove that the shape of the heavens is not oval or lenticular with arguments--some of which are natural proofs and others are mathematical. And since you have a mastery of mathematics and live in a region where [numerous] experts in geometry reside, there is no need for me to go into further details.

(35) Nonetheless, your assertion that no void would occur from the movement of the oval and lenticular shapes, as you have observed from the moving bodies within the celestial sphere, is not the same as [the other saying], because in the celestial sphere there are, vis a vis the moving bodies, other moving bodies touching them consecutively. As for the heavens, if it were lenticular and moved, but not around the minor axis, or if it were oval and moved, but not around the major axis, then a void would necessarily occur because there is no body beyond the heavens that would be touched by the body of the heavens during the movement, as is the case for the bodies within the heavens.

(36) The Seventh Question: When [Aristotle] mentioned directions, he established that the right is the starting point Noun 1. starting point - earliest limiting point
terminus a quo

commencement, get-go, offset, outset, showtime, starting time, beginning, start, kickoff, first - the time at which something is supposed to begin; "they got an early start"; "she knew from the
 for the motion of every planet; he then reversed the matter, for he said that the motion in the sky is from the east because that is the right side; and the reverse is not permissible, thus leading to a circular argument.

(37) The Answer: The Philosopher did not assert that the motion of the heavens is from the east because the east is right. What he asserted was that the east is the right side because motion appears from the east. The movement of animals Movement of Animals (or On the Motion of Animals or De Motu Animalium) is a text by Aristotle on the general principles of motion in animals. External links
  • at ReiPublicae
  • On the Motion of Animals, translated by A. S. L.
 appear from the right and, for him, the moving heavens is [like] an animal; thus it necessitated that the east is the right of the heavens. It is impossible for a rational person to embark upon the task to prove that the heavens move from the east because there is no doubt about that; it has been always the case that the heavens move from the east. However the Philosopher wanted to clarify the nature of [what is meant by] the right of the heavens after he had asserted what is the right direction for the heavens with reasoning.

(38) The Eighth Question: [Aristotle] claimed that when planets move, the air that touches the planets is heated because heat comes as a result of motion and coldness is a result of rest. So when the heavens move quickly, the air being touched becomes hot, eventually becoming fire, known as Ether ether, in chemistry
ether, any of a number of organic compounds whose molecules contain two hydrocarbon groups joined by single bonds to an oxygen atom.
. The faster the motion, the stronger and more intense the heating. It is very clear that the fastest motion of the heavens occurs at the equator and when it approaches the two poles, the motion slows down. Let us assume that the heaven is A, B, C, D and the two poles are AB and the equator CD; the hottest points would be EF and these are the farthest points because here the motion is the fastest. Then, the motion slows down toward the two poles. The heat will gradually decrease until it disappears at the two poles. The fire image is presented here by the outer shape and the air image by the inner shape. This is what should occur according to the agreement of the ancients who agreed that the shape of the fire is spherical and so is that of air, and nothing can illustrate this better than this figure [see Fig. 1].

[FIGURE 1 OMITTED]

(39) The Answer: According to most philosophers, the fire is not brought into being by the motion of the heavens but it is an independent element; it has its own sphere and a natural position of its own, like any other element. What you have said is nothing but the beliefs of those who considered the four elements to be [only] one, two or three, like Thales, who considered them to be water; or Heraclitus, who considered them to be fire; or Diogenes, who considered them to be a substance between water and air; and Anaximander, who considered them to be air. Each one of them considers other bodies--as well as the generated accidents--as the accidents that appear in those bodies according to how they are shaped and do not consider that they are derived from another body. And Anaximander says--what you have mentioned--namely that the first element is air; when it is affected by cold, it becomes water and when it is heated by the motion of the heavens, it becomes fire or ether. However, Aristotle did not consider any of the four elements to be coming into existence from another element and the same is true for their parts. This objection [you raise], then, does not apply to Aristotle or to whoever said the same thing, which is the right and wise saying. As for the shape you drew, it is not supposed to be like that. The two nooks, E and F, that you drew, only apply to the condition you described. But the figure to prove your point has a problem, and it is that the curve AE should meet the curve EB roundly round·ly  
adv.
1. In the form of a circle or sphere.

2. With full force or vigor; thoroughly: applauded roundly; was roundly criticized.
, without nooks between the points. And so should be the case with the two curves AF and FB according to this illustration 2 [Fig. 2].

[FIGURE 2 OMITTED]

(40) The Ninth Question: If [it is in the nature of] heat [to] rise from its centre, how is it that the heat of the sun reaches us? Are rays bodies, accidents, or something else?

(41) The Answer: You must know that heat does not leave its centre because heat is motionless, except in the case of accidental motion, when it is inside a moving body, like a motionless person inside a moving ship. And you must also know that the heat of the sun does not come to us by descending down from the sun for the following reasons: firstly, heat does not move by itself; secondly, there is no hot body that descends from above and heats what is down below, neither does heat come down from the sun by accidents; third, the sun is not even hot because heat that is being created here is not descending from above for the three reasons already mentioned. [Rather], heat occurs here from the reflection of light and air is heated by this process as can be observed in the [experiment of] burning mirrors. And you must know that the rays are not bodies--for if they were bodies there would be two bodies in one place, [and by that] I mean the air and the rays--but attributes of a transparent body. Aristotle has defined it in Book II of Kitab al-Nafs (On the Soul) and in Book I of Kitab al-Hiss (Sense and Sensiblia). According to him, light is the perfection of transparency and is in itself transparent.

(42) The Tenth Question: What causes transformation of elements into each other? Is it the result of their proximity or intermingling or some other process? Let us take the example of air and water: when water transforms into air, does it become air in reality, or is it because its particles spread out until they become invisible to the sight so that one cannot see these separate particles?

(43) The Answer: The transformation of elements into one another does not occur the way you mentioned. Water does not transform into air by the separation and the spread of its particles in the air until they disappear from the sight; rather, the water particles take off their watery wa·ter·y
adj.
1. Filled with, consisting of, or soaked with water; wet or soggy.

2. Secreting or discharging water or watery fluid, especially as a symptom of disease.
 image and put on an airy air·y  
adj. air·i·er, air·i·est
1. Of, relating to, or having the constitution of air.

2. High in the air; lofty.

3. Open to the air: airy chambers.

4.
 image. For more details, one can see the commentaries on Kitab al-Kawn wa'l-Fasad and Kitab al-Athar al-'ulwiyah and the Book III of Kitab al-Sama'. But here I clarify this case according to their methods and the following logical example that they used to prove their sayings.

(44) Increase in the mass of bodies [can be explained by means of an example: [Suppose], we took a flask flask (flask)
1. a laboratory vessel, usually of glass and with a constricted neck.

2. a metal case in which materials used in making artificial dentures are placed for processing.
 filled with water, sealed it tightly and exposed it to intense heat. The water particles in the flask would expand and crack the flask because their volume increased when they transformed into air. This happened either because of the spread of the space between the water particles, or not because of the spread of particles. But the void is impossible; therefore it is necessary that the latter is true. [Thus] the reason for transformation [of water into air] is not the spread of its particles, but the acceptance of another image by its atoms.

(45) If it would be said that air or something else entered the flask and increased its volume, we would say: that is impossible because a full container cannot accept another body inside it until it is emptied of the first occupant occupant n. 1) someone living in a residence or using premises, as a tenant or owner. 2) a person who takes possession of real property or a thing which has no known owner, intending to gain ownership. (See: occupancy) , and the water cannot leave the flask because it is tightly sealed and there is no way out. I observed a little flask. We tightly sealed it and put it in a kiln. It did not take long before it cracked and everything that was in it exploded into the fire. And it is known that nothing mixed with the particles of the water that were inside the flask that could cause a change, because, firstly, the fire was not inside the flask and, secondly, it did not enter it because there was no way into the flask. It is, therefore, obvious that this transformation occurred through a change in the air and fire natures of [air and fire] and not through the spread of parts. I have provided an example which supports Aristotle's views on the generation and change as parts of nature; and this suffices, for further elaboration would demand tenuous tenuous Intensive care adjective Referring to a 'touch-and-go,' uncertain, or otherwise 'iffy' clinical situation  efforts. Many objections could arise in this matter and if you encounter any, please convey your questions and I would explain to you, God willing.

(46) These are the answers to the ten questions arising from the Kitab al-Sama' of Aristotle; now we will answer the other questions by the permission of Allah the Exalted ex·alt·ed  
adj.
1. Elevated in rank, character, or status.

2. Lofty; sublime; noble: an exalted dedication to liberty.

3.
.

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