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Happy. Gay. American: when Jim McGreevey came out--and announced he'd resign as New Jersey governor--it was the end of a long, painful story of lies and secret liaisons, which he details in a new book. His new story: settled, partnered, happy.


Life for Jim McGreevey James Edward "Jim" McGreevey (born August 6, 1957) is an American Democratic politician. He served as the 52nd Governor of New Jersey from January 15, 2002, until November 15, 2004, when he left office three months after admitting that he had had an extramarital affair with a male  has completely changed since August 12, 2004, when he came out as a "gay American" and announced his resignation as governor of New Jersey. Then still married to his second wife, Dina Matos, McGreevey faced what he alleges was an extortion extortion, in law, unlawful demanding or receiving by an officer, in his official capacity, of any property or money not legally due to him. Examples include requesting and accepting fees in excess of those allowed to him by statute or arresting a person and, with  attempt from his former male lover and employee, Golan Cipel Golan Cipel (Hebrew: גולן ציפל, pronounced "Tzi-pel") was born in Tel Aviv, Israel in 1968, and grew up in the city of Rishon LeZion. . Once the shining star of the Democratic Party--considered by many a favorite for the White House--McGreevey saw his personal and political lives reduced to shambles, thanks to the double-barreled scandal surrounding his decision to date and then hire Cipel, whom he met on a business trip to Israel.

Today, the 49-year-old former governor lives far out of the spotlight on a quiet tree-lined street in Plainfield, N.J.--a town heralded as a "gay suburb" by Gay.com (a division of The Advocate's parent company). He shares his three-story Georgian-style home with his partner, 42-year-old investment company CFO See Chief Financial Officer.  Mark O'Donnell; the couple's first date was last November at Advocate sister publication Out magazine's Out 100 party in New York City New York City: see New York, city.
New York City

City (pop., 2000: 8,008,278), southeastern New York, at the mouth of the Hudson River. The largest city in the U.S.
 in November 2004. He and Mark now help raise McGreevey's 4-year-old daughter, Jacqueline, who lives 20 minutes away with her mother but spends every other weekend in Plainfield. (McGreevey's older daughter, 13-year-old Morag--who lives with his first wife in Canada's British Columbia British Columbia, province (2001 pop. 3,907,738), 366,255 sq mi (948,600 sq km), including 6,976 sq mi (18,068 sq km) of water surface, W Canada. Geography
 province--made an extended visit during the summer.)

"I'm now in a loving, committed relationship A committed relationship is an interpersonal relationship based upon a mutually agreed upon commitment to one another involving exclusivity, honesty, or some other agreed upon behavior.  in a home filled with friends, my daughters, and my family," he says. "It's ended up in a good place."

As McGreevey prepared to launch a book tour to promote his just-published memoir, The Confession (Regan Books, $26.95), which he wrote with journalist David France (Our Fathers), he invited The Advocate to his home for a candid can·did  
adj.
1. Free from prejudice; impartial.

2. Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression; unreservedly straightforward: In private, I gave them my candid opinion.
 talk about the secrets that accompany life in the closet and, more important, the grace that comes when one finally "grapples with those secrets in an honest, open way."

Most people say "I'm gay" when they come out. But you said, "I'm a gay American." What made you choose those words?

I used the words "gay American" not only to say who I am as a person but to recognize my belonging to a nation--to a people--that historically has moved in the right direction on civil rights, the present administration notwithstanding. So saying "I'm a gay American" is similar to saying "I'm an Irish-American," a Cuban-American, or an African-American. It is a sense of identity--to say that I'm gay but that I'm also American--and to say that proudly, unequivocally, and forcefully.

You know, it's wonderful and refreshing to be open as to your sexuality, your identity, and also to belong to a greater community. I have a source of pride in my country and in its traditions and its values, and now I recognize, by sense of obligation, that I am who I am and that I can say that proudly and without shame.

Coming out can be such a frightening process, but it must have been really scary to do it on national TV--with your parents and your wife at your side. What was more difficult, the press conference or telling your wife and parents that you're gay?

The personal part was far more difficult. But as everyone who has traveled that road knows, once you cross the divide there's peace and personal acceptance. I was blessed because I had acceptance from my family. My parents were extraordinary--loving and demonstrative LEGACY, DEMONSTRATIVE. A demonstrative legacy is a bequest of a certain sum of money; intended for the legatee at all events, with a fund particularly referred to for its payment; so that if the estate be not the testator's property at his death, the legacy will not fail: but be payable . And my wife was, in a very difficult moment, loving and supportive. It was obviously difficult. But going to the podium podium

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 and reading the speech was a moment of grace. It was a gift, after all those years, to simply state who I am. And the wall came crumbling down. It was publicly painful, but there was also a wonderful moment of personal acceptance--of overcoming the shame and overcoming lessons that I had incorporated and that I had learned.

Have your parents or wife spoken to you about how difficult it was for them to be up there with you during that press conference?

Everyone comes to grapple with to enter into contest with, resolutely and courageously.

See also: Grapple
 the difficulty of the circumstances in their own way. More than discussing it directly, there's been a process of healing, a process of accepting and understanding that life changes. For my parents, it's about loving Mark and being in our home and sharing dinner and time with our daughter. For Dina, it's about raising our daughter in a loving, nurturing way and to understand the importance of giving her a healthy, supportive environment. It's accepting the change that is perhaps the most difficult. But once you recognize that change is inevitable in life--and embrace that change--it becomes enjoyable. It becomes part of the mystery of life.

I think a lot of people who watched your press conference thought you were quitting simply because you are gay. Is there any truth to that?

Definitely not. I think that when people understand the circumstances and the potential of the [Golan Cipel] lawsuit, then they understand what was at stake. It would have been practically impossible for me to govern effectively while litigating a lawsuit. I took an oath, and I took it seriously--and I also understood that I had done something wrong. I had a relationship with someone who was an employee of the state.

But what if you took the possibility of litigation An action brought in court to enforce a particular right. The act or process of bringing a lawsuit in and of itself; a judicial contest; any dispute.

When a person begins a civil lawsuit, the person enters into a process called litigation.
 out of the picture--could you have governed effectively as an openly gay public official?

Ultimately, there will be an elected gay governor someplace some·place  
adv. & n.
Somewhere: "I didn't care where I was from so long as it was someplace else" Garrison Keillor. See Usage Note at everyplace.
 in America. In New Jersey there is such an outpouring of human decency and human kindness--from the gay community as well as the straight community. And that's what was so powerful about writing this book: I grappled toward authenticity and, at its core being, started living the life I was meant to live. I want people to understand that the closet is an unhealthy place and that secrets don't miraculously disappear. The day will come when there is a gay governor--when someone says proudly, "I am a gay American, and I seek the office of senator or governor."

As governor you were opposed to same-sex marriage Noun 1. same-sex marriage - two people of the same sex who live together as a family; "the legal status of same-sex marriages has been hotly debated"
couple, twosome, duet, duo - a pair who associate with one another; "the engaged couple"; "an inseparable
, correct?

Yes.

Are you still?

Of course not.

Was your position on marriage as governor based on your effort to stay in the closet?

Yes.

So do you think New Jersey would be a different place today for gay couples if you hadn't been a closeted clos·et·ed  
adj.
Being In a state of secrecy or cautious privacy.
 governor?

No. The civil unions bill that we passed [in January 2004] was [one of the first] in the nation. It was a major, almost Herculean effort, and my chief of staff, Jamie Fox [who is openly gay], deserves the lion's share of the credit. Jamie would have made Lyndon Baines Johnson proud with his old-fashioned legislative wrangling--and it worked.

So what's happening with marriage rights in New Jersey now?

There's a lawsuit being decided in the [state] supreme court, and the decision most likely will be made right after Labor Day Labor Day, holiday celebrated in the United States and Canada on the first Monday in September to honor the laborer. It was inaugurated by the Knights of Labor in 1882 and made a national holiday by the U.S. Congress in 1894. .

And what do you think is going to happen?

I'm always an optimist. I'm always hopeful. I think the supreme court will do the right thing.

And then what happens?

Gay marriage in New Jersey.

And the legislature won't try to overturn it?

The legislature won't want to do anything. And Governor [Jon] Corzine will respect the constitutionality of the court's actions.

You talk a lot in the book about how, as you were growing up, you realized you were gay. There was the time at Boy Scout camp when the other boys called you "fag," and then the adolescent sexual encounters with other boys, among other experiences. These are almost universal experiences for gay men--but you didn't come out like most gay men. Why not?

I remember being a child and listening to those boys call me names. And there was almost a trigger mechanism that made me react the way I did: I had to be straight. That's what I thought I needed to do to survive that episode. I can remember it as if were yesterday, and as I think back today, I remember it as one of the defining moments of my life. I said to myself, Damn it DAMN IT

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, I need to build this facade and make sure that my reality is never penetrated again. So I worked hard at it--ever since then.

There were painful periods when I would ask myself, Can I sustain this? Can I humanly hu·man·ly  
adv.
1. In a human way.

2. Within the scope of human means, capabilities, or powers: not humanly possible.

3.
, spiritually, intellectually continue to carry this burden? Is it the right thing to do? And everything within my experience told me that it was. The church that I loved told me that it was unequivocally the right thing to do. Homosexuality was a sin. So when I was 7 or 8 years old and I was reacting to my peers at Boy Scout camp, reacting to the church's teachings, and reacting to the things you read at the library--that homosexuality is a perversion Perversion
See also Bestiality.

bondage and domination (B & D)

practices with whips, chains, etc. for sexual pleasure. [Western Cult.: Misc.
 and a psychiatric illness--I knew I needed to change it, I needed to closet it, I needed to condemn it. I just couldn't accept it. That wasn't an option.

But then there was your friend Brian, with whom you had a brief and secret affair when you were in high school. You write about how he grew up to be an openly gay man in a healthy gay relationship. What was different for him?

Brian made a decision to move away after college to another place. We had the adolescent beginnings of a relationship, but then he continued to understand that he was gay and he made the decision to move away--and that gave him the freedom to be in a relationship, to put down roots in comfort and security, and to eventually tell his parents--but not until after he was solidified so·lid·i·fy  
v. so·lid·i·fied, so·lid·i·fy·ing, so·lid·i·fies

v.tr.
1. To make solid, compact, or hard.

2. To make strong or united.

v.intr.
 in a relationship.

So do you think things would have been different for you if you had moved away to go to school in San Francisco San Francisco (săn frănsĭs`kō), city (1990 pop. 723,959), coextensive with San Francisco co., W Calif., on the tip of a peninsula between the Pacific Ocean and San Francisco Bay, which are connected by the strait known as the Golden ?

Yeah, but I loved New Jersey. I loved playing baseball. I loved my friends. I loved bicycling up and down the streets in Carteret, N.J. I belonged here. It was a classic, all-American boyhood experience with one very big exception.

So you went on to find great political success, got married, and then--as you discuss candidly can·did  
adj.
1. Free from prejudice; impartial.

2. Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression; unreservedly straightforward: In private, I gave them my candid opinion.
 in the book--broke down every once in a while and, in time, had sex with "scores" of men in roadside rest stops or other cruisy areas. How did that fit with your resolve to stay in the closet?

It was a break in the wrong discipline. As a young child, and then as an adolescent, I thought I was doing the right thing. I wanted to do the right thing, as Andy Tobias says in his book [The Best Little Boy in the World]. So I was working diligently dil·i·gent  
adj.
Marked by persevering, painstaking effort. See Synonyms at busy.



[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin d
 with every fiber of my being to be straight, and at the same time there was this natural desire for companionship companionship

the faculty possessed by most truly domesticated animals. They are social creatures and have a great need for the companionship of other animals. Animals in groups are quieter and more productive as a rule.
, for love, for physicality. And what happened was that because I couldn't--or thought I couldn't--express myself in an open, healthy, integrated way, I engaged in actions that were shameful--or, I mean, that were shameful shame·ful  
adj.
1.
a. Causing shame; disgraceful.

b. Giving offense; indecent.

2. Archaic Full of shame; ashamed.
 for me.

Were the encounters always anonymous?

There were times when ... They were never healthy.

Were they safe?

Yes. Yes.

You wrote about getting an HIV test HIV test Various tests have been used to detect HIV and production of antibodies thereto; some HTs shown below are no longer actively used, but are listed for completeness and context. See HIV, Immunoblot.  and your fear during the wait for your results. Had you been careful?

Yes. Yes. I was smart.

That must have been a concern for your wife after you came out to her.

No. She understood I was always prudent.

A lot of times people get arrested--or worse, attacked--in sexual situations like that. Were you ever afraid?

I knew it was fundamentally stupid and unhealthy and shameful and wrong. And I think one message of the book is about authenticity, acceptance, and being integrated. Hopefully, today there are places in America where young gay men and women can discover their sexuality in the same way straight people do. And I hope the book helps remove the need for dark places.

Is there a message in the book for adults who are on the "down low" like you were?

I guess the message in the book, for both gay and straight people, is the need for self-acceptance and the need to be whole--not to accept the premise of the divided self. When I engaged in behavior that was duplicitous, it was ultimately personally destructive. I'm not in a position to give advice. I can only say that, for me, it was destructive to not live an integrated life.

So what was it about Golan Cipel that made you want to pursue more than an anonymous encounter with him?

I was attracted to his knowledge of both international and national affairs National Affairs, Inc. is a U.S. organization which published both The National Interest and The Public Interest. The organization was run by Irving Kristol, and featured board members such as former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, former U.  and the fact that he was both engaging and thoughtful. It also had to do with us being in a place that was completely unexpected. [McGreevey met Cipel on a business trip to Israel prior to being elected governor.] In New Jersey I was married, had children, and was an elected official.

So that goes back to your earlier question about Brian. Brian moved away and at some point felt a greater acceptance of himself, started a relationship, and then came out to his family.

To a certain extent, I was in a different place, a different time, and in those circumstances there was greater openness and fluidity.

One of the most profound parts of the book for me was the admission that you initiated your sexual relationship with Cipel while your wife was in the hospital recovering from the C-section birth of your daughter Jacqueline.

The distorted, sort of shameful world of the closet is the inevitable division and the attempt to contain parts of your life in separate and distinct boxes, which inevitably collide col·lide  
intr.v. col·lid·ed, col·lid·ing, col·lides
1. To come together with violent, direct impact.

2.
.

Did you realize how wrong it was at the time?

At some point, during the course of writing the book, I had an opportunity to understand and reflect. But while I was living life and, as I describe, "managing my sexuality," there was little--if any--reflection.

I was attempting to manage my homosexuality. And that produces divisive di·vi·sive  
adj.
Creating dissension or discord.



di·visive·ly adv.

di·vi
, currosive, and shameful behavior based on an effort to maintain distinct, separate worlds.

I also found it interesting that toward the end of the book you express the desire to apologize to Cipel--but not to your ex-wife Dina.

I've already apologized to her.

Has she forgiven you?

I think it's an ongoing journey for us all. It's been a period of change, a period of transition, a period of growth, and also a period of acceptance.

And you and your ex-wife are raising your daughter Jacqueline together, correct?

Yes, she's about 4 1/2 now. [Laughs] The other day she said, "Daddy, I like Mark better than I like you. And I said, "OK," and not that I'm concerned with that, but "Can you tell me why?" She said, "Because Mark said I could have a cat and a dog."

He's tremendous with Jacqueline, makes her pancakes on Sunday morning Sunday Morning may refer to:
  • "Sunday Morning (radio program)", a Canadian radio program formerly aired on CBC Radio One
  • CBS News Sunday Morning, a television news program on CBS in the United States
  • Sunday Morning (TBS TV series)
 before church, and is just so attentive. My older daughter, Morag, was down from British Columbia this summer, and she, Jacqueline, Mark, and I spent time as a family--it was healthy and nurturing and giving and everything that defines a family: sharing, laughing, and making sure we got to church on time.

Do you think you'll ever run for office again?

Probably not. I see myself more in the role of an advocate, particularly on children's issues.

Is that what you're doing now?

Yes, I've been in China to help build an American university American University, at Washington, D.C.; United Methodist; founded by Bishop J. F. Hurst, chartered 1893, opened in 1914. It was at first a graduate school; an undergraduate college was opened in 1925. Programs provide for student research at many government institutions.  there affiliated with Kean University Kean University (Pronounced KĀN or "cane") formerly Kean College of New Jersey, and previously Newark State Teachers College is a state university located in Union Township, Union County, New Jersey.  [in Union, N.J.]. I also recently went with David Mixner David Mixner (born August 16, 1946) is a civil rights activist and best-selling author. He is best known for his work in anti-war and gay rights advocacy. Childhood
David Benjamin Mixner was born on August 16, 1946, near the town of Elmer in southern New Jersey.
 to the South--to [research poverty in] Appalachia--and took another trip to New Orleans New Orleans (ôr`lēənz –lənz, ôrlēnz`), city (2006 pop. 187,525), coextensive with Orleans parish, SE La., between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain, 107 mi (172 km) by water from the river mouth; founded  with Share Our Strength, which is a national antipoverty an·ti·pov·er·ty  
adj.
Created or intended to alleviate poverty: antipoverty programs. 
 organization. The sense of hope and optimism people have in New Orleans, despite the utter inability of our government to effectively respond, is amazing a·maze  
v. a·mazed, a·maz·ing, a·maz·es

v.tr.
1. To affect with great wonder; astonish. See Synonyms at surprise.

2. Obsolete To bewilder; perplex.

v.intr.
.

In your book there is a profound quote by Armistead Maupin Armistead Jones Maupin Jr.[1] (born May 13 1944 (1944--) (age 63)) is an American writer best known for his Tales of the City series of novels based in San Francisco. : "My only regret about being gay is that I repressed re·pressed
adj.
Being subjected to or characterized by repression.
 it for so long. I surrendered my youth to the people I feared when I could have been out there loving someone. Don't make the same mistake yourself. Life's too damn short." You were governor of New Jersey and have two beautiful daughters. Do you feel that the 47 years you spent in the closet were lost years?

I had some wonderfully challenging experiences and loving relationships. But all through that time I was denying a whole aspect of my being. At the end it had been a tremendous journey. I mean, now I'm in a loving, committed relationship in a home filled with friends and with my daughters and family. So it's ended up in a good place.

But as I say in the book, if I had known then that I would have to spend my life engaging in that duplicity DUPLICITY, pleading. Duplicity of pleading consists in multiplicity of distinct matter to one and the same thing, whereunto several answers are required. Duplicity may occur in one and the same pleading. , I probably would have never rationally made the choice to do so. The road should not be so tortured. The road should not be so painful.

Part of the reason I wrote the book was to talk frankly and directly about the need for authenticity and honesty in one's personal life and in the American political landscape. And I wanted to speak to the young Jimmy McGreeveys out there--to tell them that being gay is natural, it's God-given, and if that's who you are, then be it, grow in it, and celebrate it.

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