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Engineers, surveyors, and architects: they're all the same, aren't they? Building principles.


The terms "engineering," "architecture," and "surveying," as well as the professions themselves, have been thought to be interchangeable in·ter·change·a·ble  
adj.
That can be interchanged: interchangeable items of clothing; interchangeable automotive parts.



in
. In fact, it has come as a surprise to a number of our clients that there is a difference. When seeking guidance on the future of camp development, it's critical to thoroughly understand what these disciplines provide, in what ways they overlap, and how they are distinct from each other.

Before we begin, some clarifications are in order. First, we have a bias because we are engineers. Generally speaking, we see camps as small towns with all of the requisite infrastructure of a small town--roads, water supply, sewage disposal Sewage disposal

The ultimate return of used water to the environment. Disposal points distribute the used water either to aquatic bodies such as oceans, rivers, lakes, ponds, or lagoons or to land by absorption systems, groundwater recharge, and irrigation.
, and recreational areas. As we'll see later, this is why municipalities have "Town Engineers." Next, bear in mind that all design professionals should be consultants, but that the reverse is not necessarily so. The company that sells equipment, supplies, and chemicals for the pool will gladly assist you with certain issues for your pool--selecting a disinfectant disinfectant, agent that destroys disease-causing microorganisms and their spores. Disinfectants, or germicides, are sometimes considered to be substances applied to inanimate bodies, whereas antiseptics, not so potent, are agents that kill microbes on living things.  or even a filtration system (from their list of suppliers). So in that regard, they can be considered consultants. The design professional, however, is licensed by your state to provide your organization with specific, timely, and complete assistance to manage your facility, present or projected. You should receive advice, guidance, or designs that represent the professional's very best efforts to accommodate your needs and desires while complying with the regulations and codes governing their discipline.

Surveying

How is a land survey different from the "off-the-shelf" maps like USGS USGS United States Geological Survey (US Department of the Interior) , the county tax office, or even online maps? Imagine that you have witnessed a crime. The police ask you if you will sketch the criminal you saw leaving the scene. "Certainly," you say. You provide this: ?. The police officer looks skeptical. "THIS is the guy?" he says. "Absolutely!" You reply. "See how mean he looks?! I'd know him anywhere!"

For site development or planning, off-the-shelf mapping is as about as useful as the bad-guy sketch. A commissioned survey reveals all of the details that make your property unique. Each building, roadway, path, and improvement on your site make it as different as each line on your palm distinguishes you from every other person who may also have features similar to you. To attempt to arrange new facilities to support your programs without this information in hand hopelessly hope·less  
adj.
1. Having no hope; despairing. See Synonyms at despondent.

2. Offering no hope; bleak.

3. Incurable.

4. Having no possibility of solution; impossible.
 hamstrings the planning process.

The land surveyor's contribution to the process is the reconciliation of record information (property lines and deed information) with the location and features on the ground (both man-made and natural). Much more than a mapper, they must perform complex mathematical calculations and call on many years of experience to interpret and analyze old information and retrace work sometimes several hundred years old. They produce documents containing key data such as topography topography (təpŏg`rəfē), description or representation of the features and configuration of land surfaces. Topographic maps use symbols and coloring, with particular attention given to the shape and elevations of terrain. , streams, stone walls and fenced in trees, structures, tree lines, and improvements of all sorts. Their work represents the beginning point of any meaningful consideration of the site and its future. They also are licensed in the state in which they practice and must be prepared to defend decisions, actions, interpretations, and their analytical methods in a court of law. The property survey is the foundation upon which your facility house is built.

Engineers and Architects

As for engineers and architects, these are much like a hand in glove Adv. 1. hand in glove - in close cooperation; "they work hand in glove"
cooperatively, hand and glove
. They should work together to produce buildings that serve the occupancy, safety, and longevity longevity (lŏnjĕv`ĭtē), term denoting the length or duration of the life of an animal or plant, often used to indicate an unusually long life.  needs of clients. The fundamental difference involves a left-brain/rightbrain contribution to the process. To illustrate, consider the curriculum of both undergraduate courses of study. To be considered for entry into a school of architecture, an art portfolio is required. To be considered for entry into an engineering program, exceptional standardized test A standardized test is a test administered and scored in a standard manner. The tests are designed in such a way that the "questions, conditions for administering, scoring procedures, and interpretations are consistent" [1]  scores and mastery of advanced mathematics and science courses are the requirement. Once in school, the architecture student is exposed to further training in the history and development of architecture, as well as presentation and higher art skills. The engineering student is trained in ever-increasing levels of mathematics, as applied to modeling of all sorts of systems including fluids (water in pipes under pressure, in open channels like streams, and even air in ducts); structural members (steel, wood, and concrete); and even traffic. In short, the intense application of mathematics is the most distinct line between the fields.

Architecture

The architect specializes in habitable habitable adj. referring to a residence that is safe and can be occupied in reasonable comfort. Although standards vary by region, the premises should be closed in against the weather, provide running water, access to decent toilets and bathing facilities, heating,  structures and the way in which those structures affect their occupants, inhabitants
:This article is about the video game. For Inhabitants of housing, see Residency
Inhabitants is an independently developed commercial puzzle game created by S+F Software. Details
The game is based loosely on the concepts from SameGame.
, or visitors. They focus on the use of space, texture, color, and flow to create a mood, set a scene, and provide specific function. For camps, this "specific function" is the support of whatever program element is to occur in that space. Bunks or dorms need to provide sleeping, gathering, and small-group program space. In some cases, bathing and toilet functions are also included in those spaces. Dining halls and their kitchens are similarly configured con·fig·ure  
tr.v. con·fig·ured, con·fig·ur·ing, con·fig·ures
To design, arrange, set up, or shape with a view to specific applications or uses:
 to accommodate specific programs or program support functions.

The architect is charged with meeting state building codes and related federal regulations (like ADA Ada, city, United States
Ada (ā`ə), city (1990 pop. 15,820), seat of Pontotoc co., S central Okla.; inc. 1904. It is a large cattle market and the center of a rich oil and ranch area.
) that set minimum design criteria Noun 1. design criteria - criteria that designers should meet in designing some system or device; "the job specifications summarized the design criteria"
criterion, standard - the ideal in terms of which something can be judged; "they live by the standards of their
 on space per person and accessible bathrooms based on the occupancy and use of the final structure. The architect considers the population to use the building, the activities that will take place there, and how people will move into and through the space. The architect must reconcile these requirements with the desires of the client. It is an iterative it·er·a·tive  
adj.
1. Characterized by or involving repetition, recurrence, reiteration, or repetitiousness.

2. Grammar Frequentative.

Noun 1.
 process, with the consultant repeatedly refining refining, any of various processes for separating impurities from crude or semifinished materials. It includes the finer processes of metallurgy, the fractional distillation of petroleum into its commercial products, and the purifying of cane, beet, and maple sugar  the plan as the client refines (not changes) the envisioned function. Recent changes to many of the national model building codes have included extraordinarily complex considerations for wind and seismic loading on the buildings. Once the appearance, layout, and space issues are settled, architects should refer the designs of the structural components (load bearing walls, roof, and foundation) to structural engineers.

Engineering

Simply put, engineers are professionals who apply science and mathematics to systems directly impacting the health, safety, or welfare of society at large. Engineers' conduct of calculations to select the correct material or equipment to serve the public interest is probably the most distinct difference between engineers and architects. They are immersed im·merse  
tr.v. im·mersed, im·mers·ing, im·mers·es
1. To cover completely in a liquid; submerge.

2. To baptize by submerging in water.

3.
 in the technology, products, materials, and methods that save time, money, and most importantly Adv. 1. most importantly - above and beyond all other consideration; "above all, you must be independent"
above all, most especially
 safeguard the health or life of the occupants of the site or structure.

There are a host of types and specialties of engineers, and they're far too numerous to list here. The ones that camps are most likely to engage are the structural and general civil disciplines. The structural engineer often works closely with the architect to design components of the building that require detailed mathematical analysis Analysis has its beginnings in the rigorous formulation of calculus. It is the branch of mathematics most explicitly concerned with the notion of a limit, whether the limit of a sequence or the limit of a function.  of loads to size and place those members that will bear the weight of the snow, wind, and earthquakes, along with the occupants and the structure proper.

The general civil engineer is charged with addressing the issues of human occupancy of the land in much the same way that the architect is charged with human occupancy and program use of the structures. Safe potable potable /pot·a·ble/ (po´tah-b'l) fit to drink.

po·ta·ble
adj.
Fit to drink; drinkable.



potable

fit to drink.
 water supply volume; chemistry and biology; sewage collection, treatment, and disposal; roadways and parking; and drainage, sedimentation sedimentation

In geology, the process of deposition of a solid material from a state of suspension or solution in a fluid (usually air or water). Broadly defined it also includes deposits from glacial ice and materials collected under the effect of gravity alone, as in talus
, and erosion control Erosion control is the practice of preventing or controlling wind or water erosion in agriculture, land development and construction. This usually involves the creation of some sort of physical barrier, such as vegetation or rock, to absorb some of the energy of the wind or water  are all regular fare for the general civil engineer. Operating within the constraints of the land itself, these professionals prepare site development plans for consideration by local boards, as well as state and federal regulatory agencies regulatory agency

Independent government commission charged by the legislature with setting and enforcing standards for specific industries in the private sector. The concept was invented by the U.S.
.

Overlapping Disciplines

There are certainly areas where these disciplines overlap, and we've tried to illustrate this with the diagram on page 69. The overlapping areas are important because they represent tasks that could be "bundled" inside the scope of services of either consultant. Equally important, however, is to recognize the areas where there is no overlap. Those services listed only within a single circle are unique to that discipline. When a camp needs only those tasks performed, only that consultant should be involved.

It's important to note how slim the areas of overlap are between these disciplines. Each can make critical contributions to the operation and planning of the property and its improvements. However, each should be tasked with delivering services only within their scope of training and expertise.

Another way to work through what makes engineers and architects different is to consider what specific project questions each answers. We've developed the chart above that may help to illustrate this idea.

An Example

Let's use a swimming pool as a simple example and see how each of these specialists should contribute. The surveyor provides the mapping of the area where the pool is to go so that the available space can be assessed and the project fit within the property boundaries Ask a Lawyer

Question
Country: United States of America
State: Alabama

Land property House built in 1960's. Her house was built her house was built years late. My and myself own our house.
. The engineer should be preparing plans for local development approval, asserting that this is an accessory accessory, in criminal law, a person who, though not present at the commission of a crime, becomes a participator in the crime either before or after the fact of commission.  use to a summer camp and that the installation will not affect access or violate any of the land development regulations. In addition, the supply, filtration, and circulation of the pool water and the disposal of the wastewater are all the responsibility of the engineer. The architect should be preparing plans for the shower house, since that's an issue of occupancy, use, and the flow of people. But we still don't have a complete pool project. Since it's a "nonhabitable" facility, either an engineer or an architect could reasonably provide much of the other design support. Ultimately, the client must choose a lead consultant to set the course for the project, with the aspects mentioned previously being delivered by a subconsulting agreement.

So Who Should a Camp Hire?

We recommend that a camp retain both professionals continuously. While some organizations choose to deal with only an engineer or an architect, allowing that professional to "subcontract sub·con·tract  
n.
A contract that assigns some of the obligations of a prior contract to another party.

intr. & tr.v. sub·con·tract·ed, sub·con·tract·ing, sub·con·tracts
" the other specialty separately, this has significant shortcomings A shortcoming is a character flaw.

Shortcomings may also be:
  • Shortcomings (SATC episode), an episode of the television series Sex and the City
. As a subconsultant, one professional is working through a "communication buffer" of the other professional. It is critical that you, the owner, speak regularly and directly with each--understanding the issues being resolved by each along the way. Decisions made during the planning and design process will determine the appearance, shape, and capital and operational costs of the final project. Without your direct input, it's likely that what is built will not suit your organization as perfectly as it could or should. And as a matter of finances, know that when a consultant hires another on camp's behalf, the billing is marked up 15 percent to 20 percent, as well. In effect, camp is paying more for less.

Just like each member of your staff brings talents and skills that are unique, each profession has a valuable, unique contribution to seeing your project to a successful end. By understanding better what your consultants can best deliver, you can spend your camp's money smarter and get a better bang for your buck.

Rick Stryker is a professional engineer with Camp Facilities Consulting, providing study, design, permitting, and construction consultation services to the camp and conference center community. Camp personnel may contact him at 570-296-2765 or by e-mail at rstryker@ptd.net.
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