Contract or covenant? Marriage is either a sacred union or a private arrangement. But is it public?From: Michael Coren Michael Coren (born January 15, 1959 in Essex, England) is a Canadian columnist, author, public speaker, radio host and television talk show host. He is the host of the television series The Michael Coren Show. mcoren@westernstandard.ca To: Karen Selick kselick@westernstandard.ca Date: Oct 23, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: Tie, Belinda and marriage Nothing could interest me less than the vulgar indiscretions of the risible ris·i·ble adj. 1. Relating to laughter or used in eliciting laughter. 2. Eliciting laughter; ludicrous. 3. Capable of laughing or inclined to laugh. Belinda Stronach Belinda Caroline Stronach, PC, MP (born May 2, 1966 in Newmarket, Ontario) is a Canadian businessperson, philanthropist, politician, and a Liberal Member of Parliament (MP) in the Canadian House of Commons. and former hockey enforcer Tie Domi Tahir "Tie" Domi (born November 1, 1969 in Windsor, Ontario) is a retired professional ice hockey player. During a sixteen-year NHL career when he was known for his role as an enforcer, he played for the Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers and Winnipeg Jets. . What is significant, however, is that Domi's wife has named Stronach in her divorce proceedings. Canadians have been reminded that when we get married, we make certain absolute commitments, such as to honour one's spouse and not to have sex with other people. In fact, the whole gay marriage mess began not with homosexual activists but with heterosexual betrayal and immorality IMMORALITY. that which is contra bonos mores. In England, it is not punishable in some cases, at the common law, on, account of the ecclesiastical jurisdictions: e. g. adultery. But except in cases belonging to the ecclesiastical courts, the court of king's bench is the custom morum, and . We made marriage common when we, well, accepted common-law marriage common-law marriage: see under husband and wife. common-law marriage Marriage that is without a civil or religious ceremony and is based on the parties' agreement to consider themselves married and usually also on their cohabitation for a period of . There is no such thing. We ought not to live with one another until we are genuinely married, commit adultery or get divorced, just because we are obsessed ob·sess v. ob·sessed, ob·sess·ing, ob·sess·es v.tr. To preoccupy the mind of excessively. v.intr. with passing feelings and the cult of instant and constant gratification. When the marriage revolution began 40 years ago, we were told by the elite that it wouldn't matter. In reality, hardly anything has mattered so much. [ILLUSTRATION OMITTED] From: Karen Selick kselick@westernstandard.ca To: Michael Coren mcoren@westernstandard.ca Date: Oct 23, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Tie, Belinda and marriage So what do you suggest, Michael--that we jail everyone who cohabits and has sex without a licence from the state? If so, toss me in the clink Clink, district in Southwark, a Greater London borough, England. The Clink prison was used from the 13th cent. as a detention place for heretics. Its name is now a slang term for a prison or jail. . I've been in a monogamous, heterosexual, unlicensed relationship for 27 years. My husband and I are just as smart and ethical as any politician or bureaucrat who has purported to govern us during that time (indeed, probably more so). Why, then, should we need their permission to sleep together? It makes no sense. State-registered marriages are actually a relatively recent invention. Until 1753, marriage registration was not required in England. Everybody's marriage was "common law." Eleven U.S. states A U.S. state is any one of the fifty subnational entities of the United States, although four states use the official title "commonwealth". The separate state governments and the federal government share sovereignty, in that an American is a citizen both of the federal entity and have never required licences in order to contract a legal marriage. I think the government should withdraw from the marriage and divorce businesses entirely, not ramp up Ramp Up To increase a company's operations in anticipation of increased demand. Notes: A company might 'ramp up' operations if they just signed a contract creating substantially more demand for their product. See also: Demand, Economies of Scale its intrusions into the nation's bedrooms and joint bank accounts. Sexual and financial unions should be private contractual matters between consenting adults consenting adults npl → adultos con capacidad de consentir consenting adults npl → personnes consentantes consenting adults npl , not state-bestowed status symbols. From: Michael Coren mcoren@westernstandard.ca To: Karen Selick kselick@westernstandard.ca Date: Oct 23, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: re: Tie, Belinda and marriage Personal wisdom and ethics are all very well, but we're speaking here of greater truths and of the lives of children. Nobody is going to arrest you or anyone else for the way you live or love, but nor must we pervert the fundamental nature and meaning of a timeless institution. The state only got involved because it wanted more control, both of society and of the church. So the idea of that state withdrawing from marriage does have a certain appeal. As for the statement that "Sexual ... unions should be private contractual matters between consenting adults," I didn't know you were such an old romantic. I've always considered marriage a loving and lifelong commitment in which two people could achieve completeness, share sacrifice, raise children and mingle joy and faith and happiness. Nothing common about that. From: Karen Selick kselick@westernstandard.ca To: Michael Coren mcoren@westernstandard.ca Date: Oct 23, 2006 3:22 PM Subject: re: Tie, Belinda and marriage Marriage may indeed be what you've described--for some people. But why are raising children and mingling faith part of your formula? Would you deny marriage licences to sterile people or atheists? Anyhow, your definition is irrelevant to the issue we were discussing, namely the state's role in marriage. Couples can have a relationship like you describe with or without a marriage licence. And many of those who get a licence don't achieve permanent, fulfilling relationships. But the high divorce rate isn't necessarily a sign of increasing moral turpitude A phrase used in Criminal Law to describe conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty, or good morals. Crimes involving moral turpitude have an inherent quality of baseness, vileness, or depravity with respect to a person's duty to . Many unhappy couples stayed together in past centuries from sheer economic necessity, not love or virtue. What has changed in recent decades are the opportunities for women to be lucratively employed, so they needn't remain on the farm with an adulterous or abusive husband. Want to reduce the divorce rate? Just do what the Taliban does. Withhold education and employment from women. Then they'd stay with their husbands. They'd have no choice. I hope even you would prefer divorces over this. |
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