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Bronx realtors wary of welfare cutbacks.


The plan to codify codify to arrange and label a system of laws.  welfare shelter allowances as part of Governor George Pataki's budgetary plans is getting a Bronx cheer from an owner's group that at the very least would like to see direct payment of the shelter allowance.

Right now, the language in the Social Services social services
Noun, pl

welfare services provided by local authorities or a state agency for people with particular social needs

social services nplservicios mpl sociales 
 law requires the state to provide enough of a shelter allowance to welfare recipients to pay for decent housing, which the tenant then pays to the building owner.

What often happens is that the shelter allowance does not come close to paying for a typical $500 to $600 Bronx apartment, or for paying for a family's other needs. So when a welfare recipient juggles the money to pay for necessities, the building owner comes up short. Some tenants receive Section 8 allowances, but that program has its own problems.

But a lawsuit brought by a tenant named Jiggetts some years back to demand an increase in the shelter allowance was only settled with an interim order. It was remanded back to Manhattan's Supreme Court for a final decision, but that decision is still pending. There are similar Jiggetts cases in Westchester, Nassau, Suffolk and Erie counties Erie County is the name of several counties in the United States:
  • Erie County, New York
  • Erie County, Ohio
  • Erie County, Pennsylvania
, say Legal Aid Society attorneys.

Meanwhile, if a welfare recipient is about to be evicted, the Legal Aid attorneys can help the tenant request relief under the interim Jiggetts order. Once that relief is granted, the state nearly always pays the owner of the building all of the rent directly, including the arrearages.

Nevertheless, the rent cannot exceed twice the shelter allowance plus 10 percent, or it will not be granted, said I. Scott Edelstein, a partner with Novick Edelstein Lubell Reisman Wasserman & Leventhal, a Yonkers law firm.

But once the shelter allowance is set forth in the statute, the Jiggetts case will be moot An issue presenting no real controversy.

Moot refers to a subject for academic argument. It is an abstract question that does not arise from existing facts or rights.
 and owners are afraid they won't come close to getting their rents.

It is unclear what will happen to those covered under the current orders, but certainly no new recipients will be placed in this program, and more and more are added every day. "It's costing the state millions," agreed Edelstein.

But that is millions of dollars the owners had effectively been losing and includes money that would have not otherwise been available to pay for fuel, property taxes and water charges, not to mention simple repairs.

With Pataki's additional plans to lower the welfare recipient's non-shelter allowance in an effort to spur them to work, Bronx owners are afraid many of their tenants will be unable to come up with the correct rent and housing will end up in rem [Latin, In the thing itself.] A lawsuit against an item of property, not against a person (in personam).

An action in rem is a proceeding that takes no notice of the owner of the property but determines rights in the property that are conclusive against all the
.

Michael Laub, president of the Bronx Realty realty n. a short form of "real estate." (See: real estate)


REALTY. An abstract of real, as distinguished from personalty. Realty relates to lands and tenements, rents or other hereditaments. Vide Real Property.
 Advisory Board and a partner in a realty group that owns and manages about 3,500 apartments in the Bronx and Washington Heights, says Pataki should "revisit re·vis·it  
tr.v. re·vis·it·ed, re·vis·it·ing, re·vis·its
To visit again.

n.
A second or repeated visit.



re
" his proposals saying, it would be much cheaper in the long run to pay the shelter allowance directly to owners.

"Tenants aren't managing their money," he said. "They are buying other goods and services In economics, economic output is divided into physical goods and intangible services. Consumption of goods and services is assumed to produce utility (unless the "good" is a "bad"). It is often used when referring to a Goods and Services Tax. , and not paying their rent." When they end up in court for non-payment of the rent, he added, the court bails them out. "I say it is wrong. What they should have is a direct rental payment for all tenants. Then that would eliminate the tenant managing his own funds and misappropriating them."

Laub notes the average rent is over $500 in welfare areas and believes the state needs to make the shelter allowance the market allocation and pay it directly to the owners. "This takes all the fraud and duplication of rent out of the system," he said. "They would also save millions just with the cases not going to court."

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"The tenants are very much dependent on housing allowances from Social Services in order to meet their rent," he explained. "In turn, the owners are dependent on the same housing allowance. If the state doesn't provide it, where is it coming from?"

Reisman sees the potential for more unpaid rent and eviction The removal of a tenant from possession of premises in which he or she resides or has a property interest done by a landlord either by reentry upon the premises or through a court action.  proceedings, while at the same time the owners would not be getting their money and the tenants would be without shelter.

Joseph Strasburg, president of the Rent Stabilization Stabilization

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Actions registered competitive traders undertake by on the NYSE to meet the exchange requirement that 75% of their traded be stabilizing, meaning that sell orders
 Association, said owners have to recognize there is a shortage of state funds. Nevertheless, this proposal would severely impact the property owners of the City of New York New York, state, United States
New York, Middle Atlantic state of the United States. It is bordered by Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and the Atlantic Ocean (E), New Jersey and Pennsylvania (S), Lakes Erie and Ontario and the Canadian province of
. "We supported George Pataki George Elmer Pataki (born June 24, 1945) is an American politician who was the 57th Governor of New York serving from January 1995 until January 1, 2007. He is a member of the Republican Party and was seen as a possible 2000 and 2008 Presidential candidate.  as governor and in this particular issue we are going to ask his people to look at this for the long-term perspective," Strasburg said.

He concurs that one way to deal with the shelter allowance is to have direct vouchering. "At least the owner will get that part of the allowance," he noted. "If women don't get employment, you don't have to be a genius to see what will happen."

Dan Margulies, president of the Community Housing Improvement Program, an owner's group, agrees that getting a direct payment would be beneficial to owners. "We've always sought the direct payment of rent because the tenants rob Peter to pay Paul," he said. "What we should look for is a general overhaul of welfare and some form of workfare work·fare  
n.
A form of welfare in which capable adults are required to perform work, often in public-service jobs, as a condition of receiving aid.



[work + (wel)fare.]
 as the governor is proposing."

He thinks that Pataki is correct in trying to change the whole system. "The Jiggetts money is a court-ordered half-remedy of a much more complex problem of providing shelter rents," Margulies added.

For smaller owners, Margulies said the cash flow drain is simply too great while waiting for the tenant to be approved for the Jiggetts program.

Not all tenants are eligible and it can take over a year from the time they first don't pay a part of their rent and the owner starts a court action to evict. "These are not the most desirable tenants," Margulies noted. "But courts weren't set up as a place where lawyers collected fees for arranging social services."

There are cases that Edelstein has found welfare will pay the entire amount owed. These include tenants with AIDS, tenants in need of supervision, or who are wheelchair-bound, or if there is "a real bad situation" such as a funeral. But sometimes, he says, "Even if everyone does what they are supposed to do, they won't pay."

Marshall Green, attorney in charge of the Bronx Neighborhood office of the Legal Aid Society, said he was not surprised to find owners upset at Pataki's proposal.

"I've spoken to landlords in the Bronx and many of them say they will be hurt," Green said.

The current shelter allowance for one person is $215; for a family of two, $250; a family of three $286; and a family of four $312. "It's totally inadequate," added Green.

Jay E. Sicklick, staff attorney with the Bronx neighborhood office of the Bronx Legal Aid Society, said those are the amounts that would be codified cod·i·fy  
tr.v. cod·i·fied, cod·i·fy·ing, cod·i·fies
1. To reduce to a code: codify laws.

2. To arrange or systematize.
 while the money for food and others needs is being cut by 15 percent.

Additionally, there would be a four-month limit for the payment of only the actual shelter allowance for arrearages of "rental allowance, mortgage arrears A sum of money that has not been paid or has only been paid in part at the time it is due.

A person who is "in arrears" is behind in payments due and thus has outstanding debts or liabilities.
, or property tax arrears," he said. "The progression of the shelter allowances since 1980 have been woefully woe·ful also wo·ful  
adj.
1. Affected by or full of woe; mournful.

2. Causing or involving woe.

3. Deplorably bad or wretched:
 behind the cost of the actual housing." The present levels were determined in 1988.

Calls to Pataki's press office were unreturned.

"I believe in fingerprinting fingerprinting

Act of taking an impression of a person's fingerprint. Because each person's fingerprints are unique, fingerprinting is used as a method of identification, especially in police investigations.
, accountability and workfare," said Laub, still supportive of Pataki's general proposals. "But there should be direct payments."
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